It’s Stupid to Think Christianity is as Stupid as Some Skeptics Suppose

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  1. Daniel Light

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    But that defiance was already known at creation. The very definition of an all-knowing God is that it is all-knowing - not that it knows, maybe what will maybe happen. You can't have both an all-knowing God and have it not know at the same time. The "free-will" is merely the outcome that was pre-determined at creation. The "choice" was known and designed in.

    Like I said, no Christian can deny this reality.
     
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    oh, the ten commandment are no longer Christian now?
     
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    It's in the Mueller report included with all his evidence that Trump committed a crime.
     
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    Never were, they were laws for the Jews to follow.

    This is all Sunday School stuff which even you should know.

    Sad that you don't.
     
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    Couldn't find it in the Mueller Report.
    Gotcha.
     
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    I went to Sunday school they taught us the ten commandments, never said these do not apply to Christians.. that is a new one to me... you sure this isn't because Trump committed adultery so many times?
     
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    You should have went to a better church.
     
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    Nope, couldn't find it in either case.
     
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    guess that is why the right wants the government to teach religion, the church sucks at it?
     
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    We don't want them to teach it, that is something your MSM masters tell you to think and you obediently do what they say.
     
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    Got it. Adultery is now OK. False witness is now OK - cause conservatives now pray at the alter of Trump.
     
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    Never said that and if you'd have bother to read the Bible you would see how Jesus addressed it.

    But you haven't and I've no desire to be your teacher.

    But it's all explained.
     
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    If there is an overlap between religion and science, it could be possible to minimize that overlap or find ways to reduce it's impact - or to simply understand it better.

    Even the last couple Popes have worked on that, pointing out that science and religion are different realms that shouldn't be considered to be in conflict - as I understand what they say.

    These are two different sets of tools designed to answer different questions.
     
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    Why would we want to minimize it? Wouldn't we want to maximize it?

    I agree they're different tools to answer different areas of questions, but can't we agree that at some fundamental level they are of the same sort of question?

    It's a mistake to view them as completely separate.
     
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    There are places where relligious citizens want the state schools to teach creationism and other religious topics.

    They even want to further reduce time learning STEM by taking that time to learn these religious ideas.
     
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    Only if you hang your hat on circular logic. The Bible explains everything because it's written in the Bible. Sorry. That's not a thing.
     
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    me too, is it that common in churches? guess at least the child wasn't molested?
     
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    buffet Christians pick and choose from the bible

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    they backed off some after the FSM came to be

    though I think the kids would love FSM (Flying Spaghetti Monster, also known as God) if intelligent design via religion was ever preached in our schools
     
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    The tools are so different that I don't believe the same question is being asked.

    One must assume the question requires some amount of research. Researching the Bible and researching how our universe works by observation and testing just aren't really even related.

    A person picking the religious tools and a person picking science to answer a specific question have already decided on very different interpretations of the question.
     
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    Depends, how do you treat Christians when you see them in real life?
     
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    And who else is going to explain it?
     
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    The idea that God wants to forgive humans for sins, but first must send his "son" to earth to be tortured and killed is an absurd idea. Human leaders pardon criminals all the time without punishing an innocent person, but this is apparently beyond the capability of the Christian God.
     

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