It’s Stupid to Think Christianity is as Stupid as Some Skeptics Suppose

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by XXJefferson#51, May 23, 2019.

  1. btthegreat

    btthegreat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2010
    Messages:
    16,423
    Likes Received:
    7,079
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We don't need proof that Christians have asked these questions themselves, or have been asked them of others. We need proof that they came up with credible and logically consistent answers. What you want to do, is deny the legitimacy of the questions because they are 'old' instead of answering them at all. its not ' what Christians thought out' that matters. Its the quality of the results that matters.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  2. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As one of those people I am grateful not to be burdened with delusions.
     
  3. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How is the average person morally superior to the Christian God?

    If most of us saw an adult raping a two your old child we would try to stop it. The Christian God does not. Christians explain this by spouting nonsense about free, will never considering the free will of the two year old not to be raped.
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,877
    Likes Received:
    63,191
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I get along with most Christians and Muslims just fine, woudl never punch one cause they disagreed with my beliefs that is for sure
     
    Mr_Truth likes this.
  5. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think expecting evidence to support extraordinary claims is a silly detail.
     
  6. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you think God should allow no suffering?

    Then what is the point of creating earth?

    Why not just create a Heaven and let everyone in automatically?

    How do you profess faith that you deserve to be there when you've never had to overcome anything or even felt the need for a God?

    What would be the point in that?

    And God also tells us that all the pain we've endured will be washed away so it won't matter if you were raped or not, it will be as if it never happened.

    Unless you don't accept Him of course, then that feeling will probably be multiplied.
     
  7. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But many would, just as some Christians may punch a non-believer.

    I can post some pics of Christians being attacked if you like?
     
  8. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If there were direct evidence what would be the point in faith?

    Any Christian will tell you the evidence is there once you accept God but not before.

    You won't find a peer reviewed study proving the existence of God, that would be pointless.
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,877
    Likes Received:
    63,191
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I expect better of preachers
     
    Mr_Truth likes this.
  10. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,725
    Likes Received:
    11,280
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It should have been called a crusade. The US was fighting a religion, or at least an often vaguely defined faction in a religion.
     
  11. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why?

    They are just humans after all.

    Nothing special about them other than they spend the day researching the Bible.

    Doesn't mean they are any better than you or me.
     
  12. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I thought we were there for the oil?
     
  13. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Per your logic about pain getting washed away, a frontal lobotomy or electro shock therapy would be a great thing.
     
  14. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why. They are mostly con men.
     
    FreshAir likes this.
  15. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    More mumbo jumbo. The simple fact is you have no proof. Now go call down some fire like Elijah and prove me wrong.
     
    The Wyrd of Gawd likes this.
  16. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes but that would erase all the good parts also.

    I mean, if God has the power to create all of this don't you think He also has the power to let us experience pure joy and to wash away all of the bad stuff?

    I am going to school to be a teacher but it really doesn't matter what I do, if God wants to lead me down a different path He will and I will be just as happy because I won't be in this world for very long, my real goal I am working for is Heaven.
     
  17. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You have no proof that God does not exist either.

    You folks always seem to forget that part.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  18. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    To the extent possible. And why torture dump animals by creating a natural world that is extremely cruel.
     
  19. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So if you get paralyzed in a car wreck will that be God's plan for you?
     
  20. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Animals go to Heaven, lol.
     
  21. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes.

    I have asked Him to guide me where He wants me to go so if that is His plan then I accept it.

    He would be doing that for a reason, to use me, as I asked Him, for whatever purpose He deems I would be appropriate for.

    Perhaps there is a kid somewhere I could only reach if I was in a wheelchair or perhaps an old man...I don't know but I do believe.
     
  22. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
  23. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My father punched me in the face at the age of 16 for refusing to go to church. I opted out of the brainwashing and it was too much for him.
     
  24. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,366
    Likes Received:
    11,538
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am not interested in arguments. I want to see real proof for your claims.
     
  25. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    31,814
    Likes Received:
    13,377
    Trophy Points:
    113

Share This Page