It took a war to end slavery and the Holocaust. Will it take a war to end abortion?

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    Sterilization is more humane than abortion.
     
  2. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    No, it isn't to someone who may want to have children in the future.

    And since there is nothing inhumane about abortion you didn't really have a point.
     
  3. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you saying, that forced sterilization is more humane than forced birth?
     
  4. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    The "issue" has been settled. It has been settled since the first woman decided she did not want to give birth....abortion has been around just about as long as humans have been around.



    Get a clue: It isn't going away. Legal or illegal it will always happen and the decent thing to do is make it as safe as possible just like any other medical procedure.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It took the Supreme Court to settle the issue, and it has been settled for many years.....it's just that some people never got the memo.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Pure and total rubbish.
     
  7. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stuck in the past? Are you aware that public opinion is shifting to the pro-life side of this debate?
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing inhumane about abortion?

    You live in a cold, cruel world. I guess the you'd say the Nazi experiments on live humans was just as fun as a barrel of monkeys.
     
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    No, it's not. There is something fundamentally wrong with any sentence that begins with "Forced sterilization isn't as bad as..." Doesn't matter what follows, the core beginning premise is false. "Pure evil isn't as bad as ..."
     
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    No, because the pro-lifers know full well they'd lose the war.
     
  11. JakeJ

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    Hey, if the government was rounding up pregnant women and doing forced abortions the OP might have a point.

    And the strongest opponents to forced abortions would be prochoicers.

    Prolifers might be citing "render unto Cesar what is Cesar's," the Angel of Death killing the first born Egyptians, and citing God ordering Israelites to kill every heathen in a city as proof the forced abortions were Biblical and God's will.
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Nazi reference by Anti-Choicers, predicted, trite, blown apart and backfired. Nazis FORCED women to abort and FORCED women to have kids...WHO do they sound most like?

    Now take your Nazi crap, lose it somewhere, and show some facts .....something not so emotional and irrational...
     
  13. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you see nothing wrong with abortion, you're too far gone to argue with rationally.

    Some abortion supporters find it detestable, but they say "It's the law of the land". That's not your position. You seem to see absolutely no negatives in killing babies. Wow.

    I've never met anyone like you.
     
  14. FoxHastings

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    I have never supported killing babies. Your comment is irrational.

    I support the law that says abortion is legal.

    I support women's right to their own bodies.

    I do see nothing wrong with abortion.

    And why didn't you answer the question:

    Nazi reference by Anti-Choicers, predicted, trite, blown apart and backfired. Nazis FORCED women to abort and FORCED women to have kids...WHO do they sound most like?
     
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    If your position is that abortion kills babies, it's based on a lie.
     
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    Knowledge of biology, terminology, sociology, or federal law are not required to be militant Pro-Life, and in fact are a detriment.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If your position is that killing a baby in the womb is the same as removing an infected appendix or a pre-cancerous mole, then you're a sick, twisted individual.
     
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    "Killing a baby in the womb" is a lie.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you take Barbara Boxer's position that abortion is acceptable up to the point when the baby is taken home from the hospital?
     
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    That's a creepy position to take.

    I hope you're not a parent.
     
  21. FoxHastings

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    I doubt very much that is Boxer's position. We are not discussing infanticide, this is the abortion forum.

    I see, like all Anti-Choicers you refuse to answer those "INCONVENIENT" questions :)
     
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    Accuracy is creepy to you? "Baby" is a stage of development between birth and one year. Prenatal stages include zygote, embryo (when most abortions are performed) and fetus. There is no "baby" in the womb, that is a pro-life lie.
     
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    Calling someone a sick, twisted individual who shouldn't have children because they do not agree with an ancient religious dogma is an example of hatefulness and possibly motivated by arrogant religious zealotry.

    Your refusal to use scientific and biological terminology in your messages such as fetus suggests that your messages are religious zealotry along the lines of ISIS and the Taliban wanting to dictate you religion upon women in control topics that conveniently you are personally exempt from as a man. Or are you not religious at all instead? Possibly.

    What seems twisted and sick to me is someone who can not comprehend there is any difference between a homo sapien zygote and a 6 month old baby, envisioning a God mass murdering "babies" by miscarriages. If your God cannot protect "unborn babies" from being killed by miscarriage or abortion, just how impotent is that God? Since never born, there isn't even any manner to judge that "unborn baby" nor does "free will" apply to that "unborn baby."

    Just how weak is your God? My wife claims nothing can happen, nothing at all, without God's will and no one could prevent a new life, a new soul, that God has created coming into this life exactly as God intended. Her God is all powerful and your God is weaker than even a human woman. But, then, it sounds like you're a militant humanist atheist - which is OK. Are you?
     
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    Why is it only evil if the woman didn't choose it?
     
  25. FoxHastings

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    OMG.....you aren't really asking that question.


    It hinges on the word "force". Think. Forcing a woman to either give birth or have an abortion against her will is "evil"/wrong/bad.
     

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