It took a war to end slavery and the Holocaust. Will it take a war to end abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Blackrook, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    OMG! You have never known a normal woman !!!!!!!.....

    Just don't start praising it,,,,,your posts will be deleted


    And NO, no one said it but you.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, i know it is a shocking view
    But that is my opinion
     
  3. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There really is no point in arguing abortion. Each side has different values and there is no common ground.

    No consensus can be reached as long as one side thinks a nine month old fetus/baby is legally and morally no different than a cancerous tumor, or an inflamed appendix.
     
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    what is normal anyway?

    You are male feminist right? Buhahaha! You realize your gf or wife cheats on you with right wing chauvinist?

    You, sir, are the one who doesn't understand women.

    To get back to "normal", it's currently normal to slaughter babies in their millions. Another thing that's "normal" is rape. All of us have been raped by our husbands or bfs when we didn't feel like it but they just kept going. We allow them and protect them because we know it is their nature and many of us don't want to be partnered with a soft (*)(*)(*)(*).

    Feminists consider this the worst kind of rape. Worse even than when a woman has acid poured on her face, restrained from going to a tap to wash it off, beaten and raped all night long. Then her face is melted forever.

    But feminists think spousal rape is the worse of the two. Feminists think a man's natural appetite for his wife is worse than melting someone's face while violently raping and beating them.

    Feminists don't care about women at all, they care about destroying the patriarchy, a system which is natural to our species and for all its faults, kept us safe from enemies. Nations once Feministise die. I'm witnessing it happening through my life. Production stops, people stop working, descisions are not made, and lying becomes socially exceptable in business and politics.

    The thread is about a war to stop abortion. When I heard JakeJ 's idea about mass raping I realized why have a bloody civil war, when there is a peaceful way. Everyone knows rape is the most prevalent fantasy among women and that having children is the only way for a woman to feel satisfied in life, so it's win win.

    Feminists have degraded motherhood and make most of us waste our 20s and become old mothers later. We are mammals. We have only one lifesyle. Deviation only offers pain.

    So much for your precious feminism.

    (And no, I don't condone mass rape or any rape, I'm one of the rare women who doesn't have a fantasy to be raped by a stranger)

    Now can we get back to the thread. It seems we are discussing civil war, or world war.
     
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    If you want to believe you are a goddess then go watch some cosmetic infomercials or go to a beauty spa.

    The truth is we are apes.
     
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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    And apes need to be sterilized if they cannot take responsibility for themselves and keep churning out babies, whether that means live births or repeatedly aborting them all one after the other.
     
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    Yes, its an emergency and something has to be done. These crazy lunatics are out of control. They must be stopped. We cant have womb happy, baby chopping psychopaths on the loose.
     
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    Let me know when mob rule becomes the ruling force in the US.
     
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    Damn .. better stop all those wars, get rid of anything that can kill another person and revoke self-defence laws then.

    Define innocent?
     
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    I can and do, as you well know as you keep running away from the topic.

    the rest of your comment is reductio ad absurdum
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    That claim is being made on the basis of pro-lifers advocating for personhood from conception, and even if it weren't you would have to prove that a woman who has carried a pregnancy for ~9 months would elect to have an abortion . .ergo your "claim" is a hyperbolic piece of BS.

    The right to life ends when that right infringes on another person to the extent it causes them serious injuries and as already proven pregnancy is already deemed a serious injury in some cases.

    For once why don't you actually research your own laws.
     
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    Here we are again attempting to change what words mean .. you cannot have an abortion after birth :roll:
     
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    While the values may differ, there is common ground, that being both sides want to see, at least, a reduction in abortion, the problem is pro-lifers think it can be achieved through legislation (which it can't) and pro-choicers think it can be achieved through comprehensive sex education and free at source contraception (which it can)

    All this talk of abortion minutes before birth is pure hyperbole designed purely to project an emotional message in the hope people will think "I don't want to be associated with that" and as such become pro-life, the problem is that message has been used so often it no longer carries the shock value it was intended for.

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    alternatively sterilize men, after all according to the person you responded to all men are rapists :roll:

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    Try VASGEL, 100% effective, 100% safe, 100% reversible .. now go advocate for forcing that onto all males capable;e of reproducing, see how far the support reaches then,
     
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    It worked with gay rights.
     
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    If you call 20 years of court battles to win 14th Amendment protections, "mob rule".
     
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    nope that was a constitutional issue, it would have happened regardless of the public support or not .. remember the equal protection clause
     
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    procreation for females is easy. For males, it's a scramble to coerce a woman into the use of her womb.

    I don't blame men for lowering their chances even more by not using a new drug. We will really need to see it used for several decades at least to determine side effects. All side effects.

    Remember the morning sickness drug?.... hmmm
     
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    Fixed it
     
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    Please point out where anyone said a 9 month fetus """ is legally and morally no different than a cancerous tumor, or an inflamed appendix""".
     
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    What is normal? Not any of that .....:roll:
     
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    OH dear, you didn't even look up VASGEL did you, if you had you would know it isn't a drug :roll:
     
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    Gays won the hearts of the judges. Legally, it was a reach.
     
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    That's the standard pro-choice position. We've heard it since 1973. The fetus is just an appendage or "blob of cells", disposable whenever the mother wants to get rid of it.

    It's not a person until it exits the mother.
     
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    No one ever thought a fetus was a person until Catholics said "life begins at conception," and what a coincidence--from the very people who think women should be subservient. There is no way to grant personhood rights to a fetus without taking them away from the woman.
     
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    So you can't prove that anyone said , a 9 month fetus """ is legally and morally no different than a cancerous tumor, or an inflamed appendix""".

    You can't prove it's the Pro-Choice position because it isn't.


    It isn't a person until birth...gee, ya got one thing right !
     

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