Jesus returns in 2017,,,,

I just noticed that I failed to give you the link to that writing by Pastor Rick Joyner.... The part entitled The Judgment Seat of Christ is about 2/3 of the way down the page...…

http://www.heavennet.net/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm

 

And how do you intend to figure that out?

 

According to biblical law, the Jubilee is only observed when all twelve tribes of the Jewish nation are living in Israel, as is derived from the verse,1 “And you shall sanctify the fiftieth year, and proclaim freedom throughout the land for all who live on it,” which implies that the Jubilee is only sanctified when “all who live on it”—meaning, all who are meant to be living there—are in the Land of Israel.

Furthermore, the Jubilee is only observed when every tribe is living in the specific part of the land which was it was allotted when the Land of Israel was divided.

 

I just watched an amazing interview of a woman who is certainly doing a great job of preparing the world for the application of the principle of Jubilee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58ayjFKRQ2A
Karen Hudes: We're Running Out of Time! We're Dealing with Whether We Can Continue as Humanity

 

A true christian or I should say a christian that is obeying and adhering to the teachings of Jesus Christ knows that karma works. That said I am a fence sitter when it comes to the question of the sum total of Gods involvement (I would even say intrusion) in the current physical universe*. Theologists are in agreement that miracles are not linear and sequential, but through history they happen with no pattern except for those mentioned in scripture. So that means that supernatural events surged at the beginning and then faded. Even during the time of Jesus was not as miracle saturated as Gods contact and creation with the early universe. The bible also predicts a drought of miracles during the modern church age until the beginning of the birth pangs ie the start of end time events where the supernatural will again have its way with earth.

The bad news is most of the supernatural ability will come from the dragon. Yes, I do think God knows and intervenes in the affairs of men. What the universe and everything in it from quarks to men to solar systems would do from start to end was written in to the very fabric of our spacetime by God. However I am not a prophet, but an ordinary human. The flesh ie mans physical body and our human brains are almost laughably limited. We have a strict limit of what we can know and so I don't concern myself 2 much when it comes to 'how much does God intervene' with physical reality (which is not well defined or even well understood!).

I am far more inclined to produce an accurate answer when thinking on the things with answers I know without a doubt! Examples; 'God lives' and 'God exists' and that 'God is a personal God that loves us', and 'GOD IS GREAT'. Amen ?

* notes;

* By current universe I mean to say the universe as it is in the here and now.


reva

 

This is a truly interesting theory that the bulk of miracles that will soon be seen…….. will come from the dragon!?

So what do you think about what was written by Eporu Ronald Alfred from Uganda about an outpouring of the Holy Spirit that will occur as Christians…….. begin to support the fulfillment of the words of the prophets like Ezekiel?

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...assive-holy-spirit-tsunami-is-coming.7681942/

Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?

 

Hey DT. The dragon I referenced is of course the most beautiful of angels, the morning star or we know him better by his common name ie the devil or Satan. My end time theology is kind of boring and pretty much common end time Dispensationalism. However I earn the Anarchist in my sc name with some philosophical and biblical hermeneutic tweaks that rely on several scientific disciplines . Back to the dragon? So the dragon will get a side kick called in revelation the false prophet which will be the conduit direct to the dragon with the Antichrist then being enabled after he duplicates some old testament miracles, such coming back to life after being dead for seven days. I bet he smells bad too because the bible says he will lie in the street decaying for that amount of time!

As far as the Jewish question they will be saved, but that is another thread eh? Lastly there is scriptural support for a christian resurgence, but I am speaking of after Armageddon when 144,000 saints will lead the transmuted earth and universe (heaven) with Jesus being the prez. As far as I can tell heaven is not for most Christians the bulk of us will live eternally as atemporal beings on the earth which the bible hints will be transformed even the elements and natural law will change to give us perfect non-aging perfect bodies, a new earth but fully recognizable. This eternal beautiful home will receive Jesus at the helm. I mean a earthly home and we having bodies makes more sense than floating around in the clouds playing freaking harps eh? How could humans be happy as spirit beings that have bodies and are nothing like what we know? I would probably crash land and break wings if I looked like a traditional angel!

Btw, I read your hyperlink but there was not enough information to form an opinion.
~~reva~~

 

Sorry…. ChristianForums altered their coding just last week so the article would be unavailable to a non-member….. Isn't it amazing how when Balaam began to prophecy he gave some of the most eloquent paragraphs in the enitire Jewish Bible, right up there with Isaiah or even Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

Yet Balaam……….. according to the traditions that I read was the father of Janes and Jambres who were the magicians of Egypt who opposed Moses…….. Balaam…… was a type of the anti-Christ……. but….. at the least he deserves some credit for being genuinely gifted…….

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Num&c=24&t=KJV
Numbers 24:1
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I will now quote the whole article by Eporu Ronald Alfred because I am convinced that what he writes will be crucial in understanding what happens over the next decade or two or five in Jerusalem and area?!

 

There are two million refugees in Turkey who have fled from Syria and Iraq, there are another 1.5 million refugees in Jordan.

I believe that it is obvious that a nation as large as my nation Canada……. should be doing all that we possibly could to bring as many as possible of these people over to our land and genuine freedom……. Huge numbers of these people have risked their lives due to their religious convictions……. and I am convinced that they will make honest and productive citizens……….

Understanding is always increased as we take the first obvious step in the general right direction……..


http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ts-take-937-those-syrian-refugees-canada.html
Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?

 

Actually…… if that writing by Eporu Ronald Alfred is accurate…… then a human political leader similar to Cyrus…….. must come along before…… the coming of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus in power as he predicted.

Zechariah 14 cannot be fulfilled…….. until the Jerusalem Third Temple is rebuilt and restored…….. Isaiah 66:5,6…… cannot happen until the Jerusalem Third Temple is restored……. so I must take exception with 2017 being the year in which Messiah Yeshua - Jesus returns……… it is more likely the time of the raising up of the Cyrus type…… as predicted and explained by Eporu Ronald Alfred who I am fairly certain had a near death experience during a bout of malaria.

If the Cyrus type is raised up fully by 2017…… then the full fledged Jubilee could occur………. and the world economy could be altered in so many ways that our minds are boggled!!!!!!!!

I believe that we could think in terms of 128 or 258 TRILLION dollars in wealth………. whatever is need to cancel all debts by all nations and by all individuals…… much as is predicted by activist Karen Hudes……

 

I can't help but think that this has nothing to do with my post. I am concerned with the information transfer between God and ourselves, and I very much doubt that immigration politics is going to influence that.

 

Sorry...… but I would like to think that the Creator and the guides sent to us by that Creator..... would be very interested in guiding us to take the steps necessary to really accomplish something effective against the massive problems that are facing us right now?!

 

Well, that would depend on these "guides" being reliable. So far nothing has proved reliable to the point of consensus. This indicates that we should be searching for any such solutions regardless of these supposed guides. The effort to find the details of this is older than writing itself. In my experience, the only ones who seem to know what they're doing are the ones who haven't figured out that there are other ways of looking at it.

 

I quoted you again in full over here Reva............…

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=381946&page=2&p=1065150566#post1065150566

 

Judaism........ and specifically the prediction that in the "latter days" the Jewish people would return to the "Holy Land" is one of the most reliable predictions that any of us can point to so far................. So since it has came to pass that the Jewish people are again in Israel............. we can now take another look at the idea of a Gentile political leader........ playing a significant role in the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 which details the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple complex..............

President Truman took the Cyrus role very seriously........ could it be that America elects a President in 2016......who also has insight into Isaiah chapter 42 to 46????

http://www.politicalforum.com/middle-east/412869-president-truman-creation-israel.html

President Truman and the creation of Israel.

 

This is an extremely important point that you bring up here................. When Messiah Yeshua - Jesus comes to the earth.........in a manner somewhat similar to how he went up from the earth......... and we who are truly his are to be with him forever......… then yes....... we are on the earth!!!!!!


Acts 1:9

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And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

.... I do hope that I wasn't crossing over the line into blasphemy with my following writing..... but ever since I confronted evidence for non - linear time........... specific prophecies are starting to potentially look quite different than I once had imagined them to be...…

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...geddon-could-bring-world-out-recession-2.html

Artistic Hollywood style "Armageddon" could bring world out of recession?!

....A serious attempt to replicate "Armageddon" would create a minimum of two hundred million jobs in China, India, Russia and Mongolia alone....... not to mention the number of jobs this would generate in Israel and the surrounding nations.


Revelation 9:16
"And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."

China now holds so many American dollars that any possible way to cooperate at a higher level seems to be worthy of consideration.

One of the "stages" is the Jerusalem Third Temple complex. Without conflict a film is boring and we all know that lots of conflict surrounds the idea of rebuilding the Third Temple. Two logical years for this to happen are 2030 (only fifteen years in the future) and also 2070.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ay-least-expensive-way-stabilize-climate.html

Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?

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IF..... America..... Canada.... Israel..... and even some Islamic nations beginning perhaps with Jordan.........… will come to agreement with President Obama's older brother that the Jerusalem Third Temple does indeed need to be rebuilt........ and Orthodox Jews who actually understand Levitical rituals must fulfill many observances on the Third Temple...… then JUBILEE.......... the paying off and cancelation of debts.........… can come to our nations as well........ which would fulfill the ancient promise that the people of Israel would eventually become a blessing to all the nations of the earth!


http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html


Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?
In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


Obama’s Brother in Support of Third Temple Built in Jerusalem

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endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/

 

Report: Obama Wants To Become UN Secretary General
http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/01/10/report-obama-wants-become-un-secretary-general-netanyahu-doing-everything-he-can-stop-him


I rest my case...........looks like he's on his way!

My 'old' post from Nov 2014:

 

You are going to want to read this article...........

http://beforeitsnews.com/christian-...nce-you-wont-believe-what-he-saw-2520224.html

Extraordinary! Jewish Teen Has a Prophetic Revelation of The Future In His Near Death Experience—You Won’t Believe What He Saw

 

Jesus came by my place today! he helps with lawn care where I live. I always bring him coffee we were talking about where his daughter will be going to college this next fall. Jeez stop with the second coming fairy tale

 

Oh, dont be concerned, as I will be around here the next 10-15 yrs (long after you're Banned as your flash-in-the-pan postings put you on that trajectory) to remind ppl with 'more' "I told you so's"........


2 Peter 3:3
Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come,....

Jude 18
6 They said to you, "In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions.”

2 Peter 3:4
They will say, "Where is this 'coming' He promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."

 

LOL!!!!

Yup.... I spent over a year in Ecuador teaching English so it is obvious you are referring to the Spanish name Jesus.....(pronounced HeSus!)

It is really cool that you have became good friends with your gardener .... that you bring him coffee..........and know about his family's plans!

When your time comes........(Jesus willing ..... perhaps a century in the future )......… you will find out that small things like bringing coffee to your gardener and talking with them...… are actually HUGE....... parts of the purpose of our lives!

http://www.near-death.com/science/research/life-review.html

The Life Review and the Near-Death Experience

 

OverDrive...… I do consider you to be a good poster here..... I can tell from your other writings that I would agree with you on many subjects but............. I have noticed over forty years of attempting to follow Messiah Yeshua - Jesus that we Christians.........… tend to become rather critical of others over time.... and we tend to read into the words of others...… just about the worst possible intended meaning!

Isn't that pretty much the error that the Scribes and Pharisees were mostly falling into when Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stated to them......"you are of your father the Devil and the lusts of your father you will do?"

 

Just following the NT scripture that tells 'us' to "Be as shrewd as serpents but as gentle as doves."

I'm not one of those well-intentioned followers on this site who return like fire but believe in some "tough love" when posting scriptural truths....Jesus often did that with not only the Pharisees but also His followers.

And, I am also not a 'door mat'.........

 

Good point.... but we also must be careful to "agree with your adversary"...… I assume when that seeming adversary is largely correct in what they said........ I mean let's face it...… if...… that particular poster actually brings coffee out to their gardener.......... and talks about their gardener's family........ then that is certainly along the line of giving a cup of cold water and also being rewarded for such small acts of kindness!

 

You actually bought that response?!!!

The "I know Jesus he's my gardener" post has become a cliché on this forum...

But I'll let you have the last post on this side bar as 'ad nausea' is your style....Maranatha.