Kids to Michelle Obama: WE ARE HUNGRY!

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    My sentiments exactly, smdt. Weight has become an obsession in this country. There are weight-loss commercials back to back on TV, esp daytime TV which one would suppose is 'prime time' for fat, lazy people to be parked in front of the tube.

    We watched Oprah get fat, then skinny, then fat again... and from grapevine reports, accepting her 'fatness' cost her the 'friendship' of Michelle Obama. Fat bff's don't fit in w/Let's Move. "Adios O, y'er no longer useful to us." Signed MO & BO

    Society has become fixated on healthier eating and weight... all govt is doing is jumping on the bandwagon, acting like it's all their idea. And throwing in a few billion tax dollars to make sure they get credit.

    The quote in my sig line is so true. Our supply of govt most definitely exceeds demand. If govt wants to help, why don't people like Mrs. Obama use her power to focus on something nobody else seems concerned about... like the fact 72% of black babies are born to unwed mother?

    After we achieve a population of normal weight citizens, what's next? Shall we go for blond-haired, blue-eyed??
     
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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are, of course, correct.

    because there are 12.5 million obese children in this country, the rest should be allowed to eat as much crap as they want. Brilliant (*)(*)(*)(*)ing argument you put forth. Heaven (*)(*)(*)(*)ing forbid a child who is not obese eat a healthy meal. that's just (*)(*)(*)(*)ing communism.

    Your arguemtn defies logic. It fights it at every turn.
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    "should be allowed"? So what force other than parents should be brought to bear to make sure kids aren't eating cheeseburgers or drinking pop? Just what is it you're proposing?
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Punish the many for the sins of the few... it's the liberal way.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Only a matter of time.

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    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You lost this argument days ago. You alter your points as each successive one goes down into the failure pile.

    I don't understand the mindset of an adult that thinks that a healthy meal is punishment. Your absolving parents of any and all responsibility for feeding their children and instead reliance on a nanny state to cater to each child is amazing. the hypocrisy spawned from the loins of defeat in your argument would be laughable if it was not so pathetic.
     
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    Please allow me to untangle it.

    When you create policies allowing frankenstein ingredients for food, like it or not, you are controlling the direction of the country. There is a cause and effect to everything. If you instead allow healthy food to NOT be undercut by cheap unhealthy food, you cause the scientific industry to develop ways to produce MORE good food, rather than tons and tons of bad food.

    It is NOT about freedom to eat BAD, but about freedom to eat GOOD! When good food for you is not available, that is NOT freedom. That is NOT choice. That IS CONTROL. CONTROLLING YOU to eat bad.

    If you can separate all of the rhetoric and fallacies you can focus only, solely on the good food. If YOUR policies of control cause a lot of bad food in the market, they are YOUR policies which are bad and should be changed.

    BAD FOOD IS NOT A NATURAL PHENOMENON OF POLITICAL VIRTUE. Rather, the bad food result of Right Wing politics is an indicator that the RIGHT WING POLICIES are detrimental to the health of our children.
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Because you say so?

    Here's what I don't understand. I don't understand the impious desire to control the lives of other people. I don't understand it because there is nothing in me that tempts me to interfere in the private lives of others and how others choose to raise their children. Maybe if I didn't have God in my life, I'd have to fill the vacuum by preying on others and forcing them to succumb to my will. I'd seek a false sense of accomplishment and significance by holding the populace under my irresistable sway. I'd tell myself that it's for their own good and that's how I'd justify imposing my views on them. I'd assume that I know better than them how to live their lives because, as a man without God, I'd be drunk with arrogance and an inflated view of my own importance. I don't know because I've never tried to be somebody like you, a sad, sad creature that can only achieve control of his life to the extent that he controls everyone around him.

    So sad to be you.
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    So what can government do to implement your viewpoints on the population whether they want it or not? I already get that you're going to call it freedom even though it's control and the opposite of choice and individual determination. But what specifically must government do to compel everyone to eat the way you want them to?
     
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    Right. Having schools serve healthy lunches to children is controlling the lives of others.

    Your argument is not poor. It is pathetic. You are equating children eating healthy with some sort of dictatorship nonsense.

    You are free to stuff your children's face with whatever garbage you want. Shove it down their throats. No one is stopping you.
     
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    I suppose I'll never get your point because I believe parents are the ones responsible for deciding what their kids eat. As those kids grow up, it becomes their responsibility to decide what to eat. Prisoners seem to get along OK on 3 bologna sandwiches a day. Do you think our govt should feed US 3 bologna sanwiches a day? Think how much simplier our lives would be if we didn't have to think about feeding ourselves. We could be like Cuba and only hand out powdered milk to people with children under 3.

    A free society means people have the right to eat whatever they want. I know... goes against everything Michelle Obama stands for, doesn't it?

    Mmmmm, I don't see what kids are complaining about. Looks downright yummy!

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    You don't understand.

    The US Government is forcing people to eat Junk Food, RIGHT NOW, because they (the US Government) allowed those foods to undercut the market.

    Fake Maple Syrup has undercut Natural Maple Syrup... As a result, Natural Syrup cannot cost compete and so they scale back production to meet decreased demand and that causes price to go up because they are not mass producing and eventually the entire market falls into disgusting fake syrup with the natural syrup relegated to a niche market.

    THE SAME €£¥#%^* THING happened to biscuits, chips, cheese, EVERY €£¥#%^* TYPE OF FOOD. If you do not have STANDARDS, the whole €£¥#%^* wider industry declines into depraved artificial Frankenstein concoctions and laboratory science experiments. STANDARDS ARE NEEDED.

    **YOU USED TO HAVE STANDARDS** So what I am asking for is a RETURN TO THE AMERICAN WAY, whereas you are confusing STATUS QUO with traditional American values. THEY ARE NOT. YOUR COUNTRY HAS CHANGED. The patent system has been destroyed by Obama (Look up "FIRST TO INVENT versus FIRST TO (steal and) FILE"). The food industry, financial industry, housing industry, and political industries - ALL DESTROYED. You do not live in the United States of America anymore, my friend!
     
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    Oh, you will not get my point because you are avoiding it at all costs, avoiding the reality of your arguments failure, avoiding logic.

    What is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing amazing is all along I have stated parents are free t0o feed their kids whatever (*)(*)(*)(*) they like. You avoid that because it demonstrates the depth of your arguemtn is pure, unadulterated partisanship. You have no point. you have nothing but bitterness.
     
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    How can you say no one is stopping you when Michelle Obama has spent the last 4 yrs and billions of dollars trying to do just that?

    Mmmmm, all that and snacks, too. MO's so good to our kids.

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    You're dodging the question. Clearly you want government to force us to eat better, I just don't for the life of me understand how. You can go on and on about how it's for our own good and how we'll be so much better off, but eventually the Law of Club and Fang exerts upon society a protocol of nutrition that they can't opt out of. I just want to know what your plan is.
     
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    Sorry, but I still believe in the system. I don't care if they make chips out of sawdust and sell them for fifty cents a lb. Nobody's forcing anybody to buy them. George Soros is the one buying up the world's food commodities. He who controls the food supply, controls the people. You need to be worrying about the big boys like him... and BTW, he's no rightie.
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    Nobody decides what they eat, love.

    You eat what is in front of you, around you, and what exists. OR, you starve.

    If nature wants to create poisonous food, it will do so. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT DECIDED TO CREATE JUNK FOOD. End of story.

    Your picture of a school lunch is completely fake. It does not represent the common person's school food. Our complaints are NOT about the best foods, best people, best living. Our complaints are about the conditions of COMMON Americans.

    If you will please do a poll on common Americans, you will see they are fat diseased and disgusting. Now if you travel to Europe and come back, you will realize that your country is DISEASED, DISGUSTING, and that you are living in a set of policies CREATING THAT CONDITION.

    Here is a TRUE IMAGE of the average US child's school lunch:

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    Standards. That is my answer.

    I want the US Government to have minimum standards on what people eat, and I want those standards raised for rich companies.

    I want independent food ratings on quality, ethics, environment, everything.

    I want to look at a package and see A, B, C, F what level of quality it is, and the company can pay to have their food rated otherwise a red letter U is on it.

    ALL additives should be labeled.

    The existing US labels are a disgrace and the nutrition information is completely bogus relative to the condition of the food.

    Go to Europe, mate, if you want to experience real food!
     
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    Nobody decides what they eat, love.

    You eat what is in front of you, around you, and what exists. OR, you starve.

    If nature wants to create poisonous food, it will do so. THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT DECIDED TO CREATE JUNK FOOD. End of story.

    Your picture of a school lunch is completely fake. It does not represent the common person's school food. Our complaints are NOT about the best foods, best people, best living. Our complaints are about the conditions of COMMON Americans.

    If you will please do a poll on common Americans, you will see they are fat diseased and disgusting. Now if you travel to Europe and come back, you will realize that your country is DISEASED, DISGUSTING, and that you are living in a set of policies CREATING THAT CONDITION.

    Here is a TRUE IMAGE of the average US child's school lunch:

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    LOL, I'm afraid YOUR pic is the pre-Michelle version of school lunches. Kids wouldn't be complaining if they were still getting chicken nuggets and hash browns.

    Really... Federal Feeding Programs don't bother you?

    I hate the very concept. Reminds me of the movie Solyent Green.
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Let's come at this from a different direction. When the government is providing the lunch, people get all riled up about what's in that lunch, so why not ditch it altogether? Were American kids really starving before Uncle Feddy swooped in and saved them? And now schools are telling children they cannot bring their own sack lunches. So much for your theory that free choice would remain unhampered.

    So now the question is, why is it so important to you to have government bureaucrats shoveling food down the mouths of children?
     
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    Where did you read this, please post your source.
     
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    Never mind, i found the story at the chicago tribune and that's where i draw the line. if parents want to feed their kids garbage, i feel for the kids but it's none of the govs business force them to do otherwise.
     
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    saintmichaeldefendthem New Member Past Donor

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    Well I commend you for intellectual honesty. Many people demand source citation knowing full well that what is being claimed is true and has been in the news. It's an intimidation game. I see you're not into games.

    Good.
     
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    It is not complicated, but it is not as simple as children.

    The American food problem is system-wide. Maybe the Pentagon and US Capital have private farms, but the main population is living on junk.

    The changes are systemic. Unfortunately, the US Government is hijacked by corporations and they are all eating quality food thus are not exposed to the problem and as such have no incentive to change.

    In short. The US Population is in neglect. The US Government policies have engaged in negligence in regard to the condition of their people. It is shockingly awful. Well... You could go few miles north to Canada and it is like night and day.

    For a long time, Democrats have said people deserve things like water, electricity, and such.

    Republicans have said no, the people deserve nothing.

    Nobody thought people would be deprived of basic natural food. The fact remains that the basic food of the United States is junk. It has a negative nutritional value. And people eat it all right. They gobble it up. LOOK AT THE PEOPLE. LOOK AR THE FAT DISEASED AND DISGUSTING PEOPLE FORCED TO EAT THE FOOD. NO, THEY DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. THAT'S THE €£¥#%^* FOOD.

     

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