Latest news from Syria . . .

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  1. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you forgotten the attempted genocide of Croats? Serbs were Muslim and they have a history of trying to murder Christians or convert them. I think it goes back to before the first millennia c.e. ended. Check you history. Yeah, Bosnians filed against Croats for genocide, as well. It was done to confuse due to the poor laws stating exactly what genocide is defined as being.

    I believe every one of these guys is a socialist Serb, not a Croat, though the article makes that confusing. You have to do a little further searching come to that conclusion.

    http://www.firstpost.com/world/slob...pick-suicide-over-facing-justice-4234729.html

    Russia should not be in Europe. Sorry, they don't belong there. They need to leave and never come back. WWII is over. Today, it's socialists against capitalists. Oppression of choice or freedom of choice. Muslims using the backing of atheists against Christians is pretty smart. You don't have to die for your cause. You can use and allow them into your atheist society, while discrediting their beliefs an subverting them and forcing slow assimilation. A slow death is hardly noticed.
     
  2. Jeannette

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    I think you need a lesson in reality. Serbs are Orthodox Christians. They are the same people as the Croats and Bosnians, but the Croats fell under the Austrian Hungarian Empire and became Roman Catholic, and the Bosnians became Muslim under the Ottoman Empire. Here is a bit on the genocide of the Serbs in WWII from the NYTimes two decades ago, when it still had integrity and wasn't a propaganda sheet for the new world order:

    "It was judged at Nuremburg to have amounted to genocide. According to Prof. Fred Singleton in "A Short History of the Yugoslav Peoples", the behavior of the Croatian Ustasha shocked even Hitler's SS. Mr. Singleton quotes a February 1942 German security police report:

    "The Ustasha units have carried out their atrocities not only against [ Eastern ] Orthodox males of military age, but in particular in the most bestial fashion, against unarmed old men, women and children . . . innumerable Orthodox have fled to rump Serbia, and their reports have roused the Serbian population to great indignation."

    According to Professor Singleton, the leader of World War II Croatia, Ante Pavelic, was able to "wreak havoc on the Serbian population and to dishonor the name of Croatia by the appalling atrocities for which his regime became notorious."

    In June 1941, Milan Budak, then Croatian minister of education, is on record as stating that Croatia was to be a state of two religions: Roman Catholicism and Islam. Bosnia-Herzegovina was part of wartime Croatia, and the Bosnian Muslims were encouraged to massacre Serbs; the Bosnian Muslim Handzjar unit of the SS was particularly effective in this regard.

    According to Budak's openly stated policy, Serbs should be dealt with in three ways: one-third to be exterminated, one-third deported and the rest converted to Catholicism.

    Physically Russia is in Europe, but it has a different civilizational base since it's foundation was Greek/Roman Constantinople, rather than Frank/Latin Rome like Western Europe. This is why it calls itself Eurasian. This might shock you, but the Russians have never wanted to be Western European. They are highly proud of their heritage, and their own unique Eurasian culture.
     
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    Unfortunately in practical terms Russia has absorbed the worst of both worlds, the worst traits of the Western civilization (i.e. greed, materialism etc) and the worst traits of the Asian civilization (brutality, barbarism, oppression) without adopting even one positive thing either of those two great civilizations have to offer.
     
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    Thanks to Washington. If we had left the war would have been over a long time ago.
     
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    Maybe. It seems to be escalating now as a contest between major players, at any rate. The US, Russia, Iran, Turkey, + whoever else have all picked one team or another, if not multiple teams, to side with, and some team(s) to fight against, as an excuse to have a military presence in Syria and fight for some measure of control and influence. Sad and sick, really.
     
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    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All you had to do was read a little bit on the demographics of each region. Serbia has a majority of Muslims and Croatia has a majority of Christians. No need for all of the misinformation below.
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    The U.S. is still hitting some pockets of Syrian territory where ISIS still exists. When that job is finished, in my opinion, our only obligation is to protect the Kurds from the genocide the Turks, Assad, and the Russians would perpetrate against them without our protection.
     
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    What are you talking about? Serbia is a deeply Orthodox nation. Orthodoxy is the primary thing separating them from Catholic Croats and Bosnian Muslims.
     
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    Greek/Latin Constantinople which was the foundation of Russian civilization, was not barbaric. Actually they were the most highly advanced and educated people in the world, and without them there would have been no Renaissance in Europe of Greek knowledge.

    You're projecting, and seeing Russia through your own eyes - which doesn't say much for you now does it?
     
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    I think Borat makes a good point there. You like to idolize Putin and Russia and ignore all bad aspects of it, pretending that they're all just western propaganda. That's not healthy.

    The ugly truth is that every nation has its good and bad aspects.
     
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    Point taken. The Russian Civilization is one of the most fascinating in Human History.
     
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  12. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The following is from Wikipedia:

    Most of the citizens of Serbia are adherents of the Serbian Orthodox Church, while the Romanian Orthodox Church is also present in parts of Vojvodina inhabited by ethnic Romanian minority.

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    St. Mark's Church, Belgrade
    Orthodox Christianity predominates throughout most of Serbia
     
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    Oh dear, the Russian mentality has infinitely more in common with medieval Mongols who occupied Russia for centuries and instilled their "views" than with Greece, Constantinople or any other part of the western world.
     
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    Doesn't seem the US is too concerned about the pockets of ISIS, because every time the Syrian army tries to attack them, the American jets find some flimsy excuse to bomb the Syrians.

    In the meantime, Assad's army is the only one helping the Kurds fight the Turks in Afrin to protect the people there, so don't give me that bullshit about Syria killing the Kurds. The only reason the US is there, is for a land grab of Syria's oil and gas resources and its using the Kurds as an excuse - even though the Kurds are only 3% of the population.
     
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    If you want to know how Russians think, then to go to a Russian Church, otherwise you're projecting.
     
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    A Russian church? Why not go to Russia or interact with them some other way? Did you know there are Russians who don't worship Putin?
     
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    This is cool. Artemiy Troitskiy, someone I've listened to quite a lot via his now-discontinued radio show and podcast "FM-Достоевский" (an eclectic music program) has commented on the American killing of Russian mercenaries also:

     
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    If Assad's army is fighting the Turks, it is not for the Kurds' sake.

    I don't want the U.S. bogged down in that war. I've said it many times. But frankly, the U.S. is the only friend the Kurds have.

    Soon, ISIS will hold zero territory. Good. But then it is time for all sides to stop. The time has come for talks and negotiating. That country has no hope otherwise.
     
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    We don't need Asshat's army to beat IS. We're winning without the tyrant's army.
     
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    I suppose there is an argument advocating that it's better that they stay in the region; if they're chased away they'll merely join those who are already in Europe and other places - like Grozny for example. Additionally, I seriously doubt that jihadists groups will be open to the idea of negotiating anything?
     
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    Why are listening the musical critic on Syria's war? Is he a military expert?
     
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    We need to go visit Russia first to see how it's like in the east of Urals. I agree...
     
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    Oh, you mean those Russians who follow the 'cult' of liberalism and the enslavement of the new world order? Seems like they're projecting their own worship of false idols.

    As for Russia, I said that Constantinople is its foundation, so how else can Russian thought be understood, other than by the Church and its teachings? Okay, another way would be to read the works of their philosophers who are also theologians. So there you get it again; Russian thought comes from it's Orthodox faith, which is Constantinople.
     
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    Then why aren't the Americans helping the Kurds in Afrin, and they're calling for Assad to send them more help? Could it be that Afrin doesn't have oil and gas, and it only helps the Kurds when it's beneficial to their own pockets - or better yet, the pockets of some in Washington.
     

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