Lesbian harassed and forced to leave a public restroom

So you dont know who called the police or why. Where it happened or the political idealogy of the police who showed up but you assume it involves "bigots".. Do you understand that in the rush to assume and attack you are in fact spreading bigotry?

 

What do you think is going to happen when SJW's push the envelope? sane people are going to push back...

Yes, we live in a United States where you just can't chose a bathroom and when a female dresses as a male and tries to use a restroom flags will be raised by absolutely SANE people. Yeah, I know SJW's think all bathrooms should be unisex but SJW's are a minority that throw sanity out the window.

The real bullies are the ones who think they have the RIGHT to anything they want and accuse others of oppression when their demands aren't meant...

Also, this isn't Rosa Parks here - this is "pick and choose your difference then scream discrimination"...

Perhaps the burden is on this "woman" for dressing as a boy and expecting others to just overlook that... Besides, I'm sure if someone actually eyeballed this "woman" she would scream discrimination anyway...

 

True but the tell is that the bystanders were screaming "she is a woman" which kind of gives you an inkling that this is about her appearance not about her being disruptive in a line to go to the john. BTW, this video is about 2 years old, I snoped it. So, I can correct myself when I am in error. The problem is that this is exactly what the NC law will promote which still makes it relevant to the topic.

 

So now not dressing to the standards of the right-wing is enough to warrant being questioned and possibly detained by the authorities? I always thought we arrested people after a crime, y'all are now advocating that no crime needs to be committed for an arrest to take place.

I am all for doubling or tripling penalties against peeping in bathrooms or sexual assault crimes - these bills do neither, and instead are about arresting a minority group (irrespective of their "parts").

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Both of these individuals would be arrested in many places with these new fraudulent "bathroom bills". Do you really think anyone is going to feel more comfortable with them using the bathroom of their birth gender?

I know you and many others would prefer they simply not exist, but they do. Is it the best most logical practice to arrest them for doing nothing wrong? That is what these bills advocate.

 

Let me ask a logistical question that is not meant to be politically charged. How would creeps actually do this? Physically in a public restroom, what is the actual fear? Looking under stall doors? Looking over the tops of them? What else? Is there a way to change the logistics to make it less possible for pervs?

Technically, restrooms already have trans people in them. I have a friend who transitioned from female to male. He's had top surgery so far but not bottom. He takes testosterone and whatever else to the point that he really and truly presents as a man. He has a beard and everything. He uses the men's room already, with a vagina, and literally no one knows. He is never discovered, he never makes people uncomfortable because you can't even tell. My point with that story is, why can't we leave the laws alone? If trans people are in the bathrooms and passing, no one will know. If it's a creeper pretending they'll stick out like a sore thumb and get arrested. Why do we need all these new laws when what our current state is right this second is fine?

 

Don't expect this to be answered.
This is just pages after pages of them dancing around that very question.

Ultimately why they will lose (again) on this issue.
Their fears are irrational and they themselves cannot even justify them.

 

Oh, so now dressing according to your gender is a "conservative right wing thing?"

lol

This is why I really hate SJW's....... Realizing gender is now a "crime" in the SJW psyche.

Men are men and woman are woman...... It sickens me I have to explain something as simple as this....

WTF...

 

Well everyone in line was kind of shouting that she's a woman. The officer never asked her a question about any activity or action she may have done. He just asked for her ID. This is an honest question, if a police office asks to see your ID without telling you why you've been detained or questioned, are we required comply? I'm really asking, does anyone know? I realize it's smart to, but do you HAVE to?

 

Yeah, under the goal of the transactivists, a man dressed as a man and looking like a man can follow a young girl into a public ladies only restroom - or just wait inside for a victim - and if the police come along all he has to say to the police is that he "psychologically self identifies as a butch lesbian." Since anyone is whatever gender they want to say they are at the moment, regardless of why or appearance and without any proof, that would be sufficient.

In short, the REAL goal is to turn all public bathrooms into unisex to totally erase gender entirely.

I don't think male rapists and sexual predators are going to comply and become unisex in their targeting of their next victims. They will continue to overwhelmingly target genetic females anyway.

 

Care to comment on any of the points you quoted? Naw, just continue on with your rhetoric.
The chick in the video was not dressed as a boy but was still deamed to be not feminine enough.

Dance dance dance little monkey. Avoid the discussion all that you can.
Please don't call yourself a libertarian any longer, it gives ones that actually abide by the principals a bad name. Is there a guide somewhere that states a beanie is now a no go for women? Should she be arrested for not having long hair? What hairstyle is appropriate for men? Only buzz cuts?

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No, you do not have to provide id even after being detained. You do have to identify yourself if they request your name so they can preform a warrant search. Like you said though, it's best to simply comply but you don't have to.

 

Gender is not a risked of being erased, your fears are unfounded.

Who knew, all we needed was signs to keep these crimes from happening! That's been the only thing keeping rapists out.

I hope, to not look like a complete hypocrite, you also believe gun free zones work?

 

The goal is that the person in your example could follow the young lady into the restroom, choose a separate stall, lock the door and take a pee. Then wash their hands and leave. No where in there is that person allowed to touch or spy on the young lady, as that is already a crime regardless of what bathroom you're in. The cops would show up, the man would say he identifies as a woman, and the cops would say, "Well Miss, you're under arrest for assault, sexual harassment and violating this girl's privacy. We're happy to book you as a man or woman, whatever you want, but you still committed a crime."

 

A law that forces women to accept the intrusion of men who identify as women in their public bathrooms and shower rooms and dressing areas is depriving the women of their rights to privacy.
And here's the lunacy - without such a law, it probably happens all the time and most women don't care -- we just reserve the right to make that decision.
Secondly, if there's no danger to a man in the women's room, why don't cross dressing men use the men's room? Are you saying men can be dangerous?

 

Thanks... Outrage over .....

 

Such an ignorant statement it isn't even worth explaining why.

 

I guess with all the laws we have, our jails are empty. We can start tearing them all down.

 

What is sickening is you are wrong. And you will never know it.

There is a small percent of the population where the 2 sexes cross. Has been like that since the dawn of man/woman/and those in between.

 

They are required to have a reason for detaining you, however they are not required to give you the reason. They'll have to prove to a judge that they had reasonable grounds (they think you might have committed a crime) for detaining you, if it comes to that. So yes, you need to identify yourself if asked, just to be on the safe side.

or you can find yourself in front of a judge saying "he didn't have a reason to detain me" and then the cop comes out with a bald faced lie. Then it's just your word against the cop's, and the judge will side with the cop.

 

I think they are gonna be in for a shock when they find about how many women identified as men that are now gonna use the women's restrooms

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They can also detain someone if he or she is a threat to others or in order to prevent the situation from escalating. A lot of people put on quite a show when they have an audience, but when you get them alone they calm down and realize they were acting like a total idiot.

 

Not entirely absolute, although they should be without a proper amendment, but alas you cannot compare a Constitutional right with the whims of the gay alphabet circus...

 

No matter how much I or anyone else might back Gay Rights.....it does not change the fact a man is a man and a woman is a woman.

At least physically.

Unless of course a person is a hermaphrodite.

AA

 

Freedom of Expression is a constitutional right and absent a proper amendment, it should be just as absolute as gun rights.

 

Sorry, putting women at risk from sexual deviants and predators is NOT a protected form of expression and that is what the gay alphabet circus wants to do...

 

There is no link between Homosexuality and Sexual Predation.

AA