Lesbian woman demands double standard when she has sex with 15-year-old

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  1. sec

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    subsequent links within this thread reveal that the lesbian sex began when the girl was the tender age of 14. There are huge emotional maturity differences between a 14 and 18 year old.
     
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    this case speaks to THREE issues at hand....

    one, the double standard that if a guy does this, he becomes a registered sex offender. Someone linked an article from Florida that showed this.

    two, the fact that when accussed of a crime, gays revert to the tried and tested "it's only because I'm gay and someone else is a bigot"

    but THREE.... it shows how a 'victim' girl can go along with everything until they get upset, then they change their mind after the fact, and say it wasn't consentual. And they do this for any number of reasons. One speculation is 18 y.o. dumped the 15 y.o., so all the consentual sex they had all of a sudden became 'non-consentual' for petty revenge reasons.

    The fact that the victim is under 18 doesn't necessarily negate #3.... since statutory rape laws seem to apply here. Because if they don't apply, the victim has another fall back.


    Consentual sex does not turn into RAPE after the fact, just because you got dumped, or want revenge.....
     
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    It sounds to me as if the parents waited until she turned 18 so they could get definitive prosecution.
    I'm unclear on the 16/17 year old "possibly allowed to have sex" law...

    If the relationship started at age 18, then that's one thing. If it started earlier before she was legally an adult... then that's another situation IMO. I'm not sure if that is the case here though.
     
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    from parentingteens.about.com

    the lesbian sex began at 14 years of age



    14-Year-Old Teens Want to Be Liked
    Fourteen-year-olds want to be liked and be a part of the group. They want, sometimes desperately, to be accepted by their peers. Individuality is not important to them; most of the time they will be embarrassed if they are singled out by a teacher or by you. Your teen may get anxious if they are not being accepted by their peer group. They may start feeling bad about themselves. If you find this is happening, try to get your teen involved in a club, sport, community activity or youth group that includes other teens with your teen's interests and hobbies. School peer groups are hit-and-miss. Finding like-minded friends sometimes takes a little more effort.


    Socially, the 18-year-old has had intimate relationships and is aware of their sexuality. They have kept one or two close friends from their high school peer group but don't have as much of a problem with peer pressure, since they are more able to assert their independence.


    now perhaps the leftists understand why there are laws protecting young children. They are not emotionally prepared to handle relationships with older partners. On one side you have an insecure young person who wants to be accepted and the 18 year old who has moved past that insecurity and perhaps might even pray on it.
     
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    I did not see that. It is still pedophilia predation either way. And, you are right, their is a huge difference between a 14 year old and an 18 year old in maturity and world view as to right and wrong. This Hunt woman is a lesbian who took advantage of a younger girl for her own jollies.
     
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    I also have a problem with the parents of the 18 year old. They should have been questioning her repeatedly as to why she was with a 14 year old.

    Heck, even as young lads of 17 and 18 we did not have 14 or 15 year olds hang out with us. They were into things that we "older" kids no longer found to be fun. Also, they couldn't get into R rated movies
     
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    LOL! I'm too far from my youth to remember that.
     
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    Irrelevant....using your logic and 18 y/o is an adult, just like a 40 y/o.....guess your logic hit a wall.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to the law they are. Anything less makes them quasi-adults that are not seen equally under the law. If I were to accept your 'logic' should I no longer allow 18 year olds to sign contracts? Or in that case are they 'adult' enough for you?
     
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    An 18 y/o is a quasi-adult. We treat an 18 y/o differently than a 21+ y/o.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Sounds like an opinion, as you've backed up nothing with facts. I know it gets your panties in a bunch when that pesky law gets in the way of your emotional agenda, but that's just how the world works...
     
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    nah

    an 18 year old can't buy alcohol or smokes. They can go die for their country but can't buy a brew.
     
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    Really??

    In how many states can an 18 y/o buy alcohol? In how many casinos, that are not on Indian land, can an 18 y/o gamble??

    I'll help you. All states require the purchaser of alcohol to be 21 years of age and in all but a few states the required age for casino gambling is 21.
     
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    I think it's ridiculous that 18 year olds are thrown in prison for "raping" 15 year olds, regardless of their orientation.
     
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    Fact: No state allows a 18 y/o to legally drink. Right there means we do not treat an 18 y/o equally as a 21+ y/o.

    Insurance rates are generally much higher for an 18 y/o. Insurance generally drops at 21, then again at 25.
    An 18 y/p can typically 'expect' their parents to support them while in college, and start a 2 to 4+ year journey in college. Hell an 18 y/o can go to a community college while still trying to figure out what field they want to go into. A 21 y/o is expected to know what field they want to major in and be in their 3rd or 4th year of college, or graduated with an A.A.S from college and looking of for work.

    Who has an emotional agenda here and is letting their emotions rule their thinking? Get real if you actually think we treat an 18 y/o the same as a 21+ y/o
     
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    hip hip hooray. You cited that a 21 year old can buy alcohol and smokes

    Now, would you care to address a 14 year old being preyed upon by an 18 year old? After all, that is the topic of the thread
     
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    and a 14 year old is barely out of puberty and not emotionally ready to have sex with an 18 year old. Please stay on topic which is why there are laws to protect the young children from predators and

    why the parents of the 18 year old did not try to stop her from going after little kids
    why they feel that being gay should provide a different set of rules
     
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    Sorry I just don't believe that an 18 y/o high schooler having sex with a 14 y/o high schooler should be a felony.

    I really don't care how you view this issue any more than you care about my view. Understand??
     
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    Cut the drama queen BS. This is not about "little kids" I just love the holier than thou drivel coming from a few of you.
     
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    Do you simply not read posts you don't like? The alcohol issue was addressed, blame your oppressive monolithic government for their stance on controlled substances.

    Not every 18 year old goes to college, those that have actually enter the real world are not given any quasi-adult benefits, they are fully accountable as any other adult for their choices and actions. By all means, aside from your asinine and unrelated whining of controlled substances, please show us where the quasi-adult exists within the contexts of the law...
     
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    If my 14 year old daughter brought home an 18 year old partner then daddys grabbing the shotgun. I dont care if its a he, she, or it. I dont care if they are classmates.

    Like I said before I see some people bringing up the "classmates" thing. Or they are all high school kids. Again, my high school had a handful of 19 year old seniors in it and a handful of 13 year old freshman, myself included. Some of you are literally saying it would be ok for the 19 year old to have sex with the 13 year old because they are all "high school students". But then when you get called out on your logic you say things like "dont be ridiculous".
    Then stop saying just because they are students then everything should be ok.

    So let me ask some of you what do you think the law should be? Where should we draw the line or should there even be a line at all.
     
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    You should be in jail for thinking this is OK.

    - - - Updated - - -

    This is what we adults call a lifes lesson for the little princess.
    When 18, 15 will get ya 20.
     
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    IMHO, the ages are fine as they are now. What I don't agree with is the severity of the crime. The 18 y/o in Florida is facing a potential 15 years in prison for having sex with a 14 y/o. It also requires that the 18 y/o live the remainder of her life as a registered sex offender. Again IMO, the punishment does not fit the crime.
     
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    Thats why its called a lifes lesson.
    She is not the first 18 yearold or older to get in trouble for diddeling a minor.
    There will be plenty of stupid people in the future that will get in trouble for the same thing.
    And her parents are doing nothing but hurting her case.
     
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    So what should the punishment be for such offenses? Or should they be punishable at all?
     

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