-Let It Be Known What Atheism Truly Is-

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  1. jrr777

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    If life on mars was to be made by man, the absolute first thing they must do, is build some sort of greenhouse. A strong solid structure over the plants, as to create dew, thus bringing forth water. What is the shape of most if not all greenhouses? The surface in where the plant life is, is flat, and the structure is a dome. Thus, this is what earth is. And mars is nothing, as to what we have been told.

    "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament sheweth His handiwork." The firmament is strong, and as a molten looking glass.

    Wernher von Braun gave us the rocket that allegedly sent man to the moon. However, either conspiracy or not his death and tombstone deliver a shocking message.

    The only thing on his tombstone is his birth year, year of death, and Psalms 19:1 which is...........
    "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament sheweth His handiwork."

    Ask yourself, why would the leading scientist in rocketry have on his tombstone nothing more than Psalms 19:1? He is delivering a message, but what message? I don't think he felt it would take a genius to figure that out. Mr. Braun indeed found the firmament, him and other spiritual wickedness in high places, this is truth and truth can be kept for wisdom as to obtain power. You see them knowing the truth puts them in a powerful position, and puts you in a category of un-knowing or ignorant on the matter. Thus leaving it open as to, "science falsely so called." The one thing they never accounted for, is how modern technology will allow the people to see through the lies and deceptions, this is beginning to happen now! I wonder just how much we will find, how much top secret or lies and deceptions have they put on computers or internet? Will it all eventually show up, or the "veil lifted?"

    http://search.myway.com/search/AJim...483462569255&imgs=1p&filter=on&imgDetail=true

    The Bible's "Revelations" is a "revealing". "There is nothing hidden, that shall not come to light." This pertains to everything, nations/kingdoms, and even individuals, the technology we have now absolutely allows for this. For there is nothing you can hide about yourself that is not going to come to light. The powers that be are going to use this against us, letting every single piece of information one has done on the internet to become public information, even the nastiest of things. Thus revealing who we truly are. The government has authority to listen in on everybody's call, and have employees and high-tech computers doing this. This information that only they can see, will become public. A great revealing.

    Using pornography as an example: would you be willing to allow your wife to see everything you have done on the internet? Would you want to see what she has done? And if this category is not applicable to you, just think of the damage it will do to those in which it is?

    Do you honestly think your world has been set up for you?
     
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    If you was a true Christian, you would see who the enemy is, you would see and look out for, "science falsely so called". Yet you say you have done neither. Have you ever read the Catholic encyclopedia?

    “We hold upon this earth the place of God almighty.” — Pope Leo XIII, Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894.
    “The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of human flesh.” — Catholic National, July 1895.
    “The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” — Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, “Cities Petrus Bertanous.”

    http://www.the-ten-commandments.org/catholic_church_error.html
     
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    Lol yeah it certainly is easy to be an atheist.

    Don't forget that you're supposed to abstain from bacon and shellfish. You're also not supposed to wear clothing of two different kinds of thread.

    Everyone's a sinner.
     
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    A true Christian knows that we all fall short of the Glory of God. There is only one way to "OUR" Father in heaven, and that is through Jesus Christ. Also one that is most important, once a true Christian you cannot go back, for the "fear of the Lord", would keep one from that. "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom."
     
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    I was a true Christian, and now I'm not.
     
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    That's no different than them saying, we not only walked and jumped around on the moon, but we pieced together a car and was driving around up there as well.
     
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    Yeah, I don't get where jrr is going with that line of thinking.

    I was a true Christian at one time...and now I am not. I suspect that is true for many of us who are not now theists.
     
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    You thought at one point you was a true Christian, which is to love our lord "God", with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (Matthew 22:37 KJB)
     
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    I WAS a true Christian at one time.

    I'm at a loss as to why you are suggesting that a "true Christian" could never have a change of mind.

    Fill me in. Maybe you are correct...although I do not think so.
     
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    What makes you....."YOU", is absolute evidence of God. Earth and everything therein is absolute evidence of God. Complete and absolute dominion over the earth and everything therein is evidence. The majestic of life and it's entirety is evidence of God. What, you think life evolved from one single organism? As if this one organism created the first land animal, both male and female, and then just ceased to exist or quit creating them. Male and female of every kind this organism just so happened to produce huh, along with what is required to keep them alive, food and water, which obviously must of already been there for them? Funny how that corresponds with the Bible, plants being created first in all you know, on the third day. Everything is created after it's own kind. Thus any logical person would notice, a creator most certainly must be!!
    Evolution.........WOW, that my friend is what is absolutely unbelievable! C'MON MAN, we came from monkeys, what the hell is wrong with you?
     
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    With enough faith, there is nothing that is impossible!

    Matthew 17:20 KJB-
    And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
     
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    It is not absolute evidence of any gods.

    It may be...but it also may not be.


    A "logical person" would not be handling the issue the way you are, jrr.


    "Evolution" does not mean that we came from monkeys.

    Anyway, are you saying that your god could not use "evolution" as a way to get us to where we are?

    Why not?
     
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    Christians arbitrarily call science "false" when they disagree with it.
     
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    *LOL*There we have it. The "fear of the Lord" must override all reason for one to be a "true Christian".

    That fear was the last thing I had to overcome. It is a terroristic threat telling people that they'll be tortured for eternity for not believing a bunch of silly, baseless claims, but it's also a baseless threat. Christians do not speak with any authority, though they love to imagine otherwise.
     
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    What? :confusion:
     
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    You don't really expect to understand him, do you?
     
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    The fear of the Lord. For a true Christian is not one with doubt, as to the existence of Jesus and our Father in heaven. A true Christian sees the spiritual battle within us that cannot be replaced with anything. A true knowledge of good and evil, thus they both have their Father. One cannot side with evil and good, one must choose. When I look at the middle east and what is being done by powers that be, or spiritual wickedness in high places, it is abundantly and blatantly clear, they care not of man and their well-being, rather their pockets, power, and all the delicacies that come with (wine of fornications and delicacies). I am only 35 and have seen a lot of wars in my life, these wars are still going they never seem to stop. This is satan deceiving those in power into certain situations, that leads to battle, war, death, murder, rape, etc. For God knows the outcome of having knowledge of both good and evil, and how to defeat it. Certain things must take place just from having this knowledge, let alone the desires of men obtained from this knowledge.

    Think about taking away everything that is evil, leaving only good, what do you picture...... or can you even picture such an event? To say Jesus or God does not exist, requires the knowledge of evil.

    A true Christian knows the existence of God, thus if indeed you was a true Christian you know of God's existence, and have merely decided to leave or abandoned Him, and sided with the fallen one.
     
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    I did... but maybe I shouldn't have?

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    So atheists are all sinners, but Christians are scaredy cats?
     
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    It's all science's fault huh? Yeah it's all a conspiracy.

    It has nothing to do at all with the hateful bigots within the religions and the pretty quibbling between sects, oh no. It's the free masons, and so called "science" making discoveries.

    Odd that science is your enemy, every scientist I have ever met is a Christian. But yeah, they're telling you not to be.

    I really do feel sorry for christianity for having you as part of it. Every time you open your mouth it losses credibility. I'd say people like you are far more of a contributing factor to your religon declining. It's poeple like you that make me not want to go to church, not the theory of evolution or sir Isaac Newton's theories, not even Einstein's.

    It's the sanctimonious false pious jackasses that don't know the first thing about Christ or love, likely they are truly atheist deep in their heart but wish not to be. The ones that say science is an effort to undermine god. These people aren't content with admiring the dark ages, they would plummet the entire world back into the dark ages.

    Sorry buddy, I believe God wants us to question everything, most importantly our faith and our religon. That's how is built, not by denying science and protecting nonsense with conspiracy theories.
     
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    The knowledge of good and evil was around long before anyone believed in your god. Wars have been around for at least 4000 years that we know of. Possibly longer. Man has always been a violent creature defending his own from the time he left the trees and walked upright.
    You want violence?

    Wiki. and other ancient historical websites. All religions have been violent at some time in their life.
     
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    God tells us how He did it, evolution is not what He did. All plants were created on the same day, all foul of the sky and creatures of the sea on the same day, all animals and creeping crawlers on the same day, and than man and woman on the same day.

    According to what we see here on earth, this is how it must of been done. And what is known as the "food chain", this is the only way it could be done.

    Where would we be without bees? As far as important species go, they are top of the list. They are critical pollinators: they pollinate 70 of the around 100 crop species that feed 90% of the world. Honey bees are responsible for $30 billion a year in crops.

    That’s only the start. We may lose all the plants that bees pollinate, all of the animals that eat those plants and so on up the food chain. Which means a world without bees could struggle to sustain the global human population of 7 billion. Our supermarkets would have half the amount of fruit and vegetables.

    It gets worse. We are losing bees at an alarming rate. Possible reasons include the loss of flower meadows, the crab-like varroa mite that feasts on their blood, climate change, and use of pesticides.

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140502-what-if-bees-went-extinct

    While the honeybee is very important, this same scenario is applicable with multiple different species, a disruption within the food chain would cause catastrophic scenarios. No matter where within the food chain it occurred.
     
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    So you think the moon landing was faked?
     
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    Do you ever read yourself? If your God were real, he created everything, including Satan and evil. He is responsible for all sin. Why is it we have this sinful nature if he created us in his image? None of this religion makes since. You look like a cultist fool.

    Tell me, what would you think if another religion made these ridiculous claims? Why should I believe your bible over the Koran? The only thing going on here is a natural world. In our evolution we have learned morals and created laws, while living together and competing for comfort and resources.

    As with all philosophies, there are good aspects and bad. As with all establishments of power there is good aspects and bad. This is the results of human evolution. Same with your religion and god. This is why slavery, misogyny, mass rape and genocide of the OT are not acceptable today.
     
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    From what he said to me earlier about going into space, I'm thinking he's also a flat earther who doesn't believe in any space travel..
     
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    I read the post that these were a response to. And I recall a fellow I once worked with. He was a mega conspiracy theorist. He believed that really just about everything from pop music to space exploration was a manipulative conspiracy to under mine the bible.

    It dawned on me, this is the way he rationalized fundamentalist christianity. Quite frankly it's been disproven. I've witnessed other less deluded people subscribe to last Thursdayism to prop up a biblical story. I remember this fellow saying that the moon landing was a hoax, that some guy named Allister Crowley had influenced all music with a deep subversive satanic message.

    He called all this moronic crap that would make Alex Jones scoff christianity.

    The fellow wasn't an idiot he was actually quite smart. So why on earth would he fall for all thus bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? That puzzled me deeply. It really was because he wanted to believe the bible is a history book, which most people even christians know is deluded. The conspiracy is a mechanism which protects the delusion.

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    Wow, we aren't going back to the dark ages than, we are going back to before the age of seafaring
     

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