Man Arrested While Picking Up His Kids: 'The Problem Is I'm Black'

in canada unless I'm operating a motor vehicle or have broken a law or bylaw I'm under no obligation to produce ID...unfortunately there are police who will threaten or arrest me if I do not, it's illegal of course and they'll have to release me but it's a huge inconvenience to be cuffed and locked up for defending your civil rights, with no consquences for the arresting officer...

 

Its profiling and wrong if the cops do not have the legal right to ask for ID and no laws have been broken then they must respect that law...a cop with half a brain would've checked out his story about picking up the children first, if that proved false then they have a legitamite suspicions, by arresting him the police put the childrens safety at risk...

 

it depends where you live and what you were doing, Ive never heard of a law against asking...where I live unless I'm breaking a law or in control of a motor vehicle the police can ask for ID but I'm not obligated to produce it...

From what i understand of the incident in the op the man arrested was under no obligation to produce ID in that state...the police needlessly overstepped their authority and escalated the incident...the requirement to either produce or not produce ID will be common knowledge with every cop...as any judge, lawyer or cop will tell you "ignorance of the law is not an excuse"...so it appears they knowingly denied this man his civil liberties and potentially endangered the lives of his children...

 

True, it depends upon your location. A few states in the US require a person to provide ID to a cop when asked, the cop does not need a reason.

Most states (maybe all) require a driver of a car to provide ID.

Many states in the US have laws that allow cops to demand ID from a person (and arrest them if they do not provide ID) if they suspect that person is involved in a crime. Just being in the general area of a crime is sufficient for a cop to ask for ID. That gives a cop a lot of latitude - the cop determines if you are suspicious or not. In fact, in some states failure to provide ID in itself is a factor in determining "suspicion".

Outside of the actual legal requirement to provide ID is the reality of the police state. As you mentioned, every cop can *ask* a person to produce ID, and the person can refuse but then has to deal with the arrogant cop. Even if it is within your rights to refuse the cop, the cop has immunity and can beat, tase, and arrest you with impunity.

Canada is now freer than the US.

 

and how often are banks robbed now a days?..I dont imagine american banks are all that different than candian banks....there just isnt very much money to grab...and how do you rob a bank by sitting outside, that seems a bit of stretch...I sit outside my bank with my motor running while mrs wyly go in and ive never been questioned by a cop...the bank thing is a smoke screen IMO...

 

It's called casing...............

Casing

Slang. to examine or survey (a house, bank, etc.) in planning a crime.

That works out to 15 a DAY!

 

even so if there is a bench outside a bank it's purpose is for people to sit on it, I sit in front of my bank often while mrs wyly goes in I've never been questioned, would that be the same if I was black?...here probably, no one would care we're assumed innocent until we've actually robbed a bank...

casing a bank outside from a bench seems a little useless since the info needed is inside...this looks to be nothing more than harass the black guy, if it was a white guy I've little doubt they would've checked out his kids/school story...

 

You have business there, your wife went inside. They didn't check out his kids/school story. They simply asked him for ID, which he refused. The guards had already asked him to leave twice.