Manchester bomber identified: Geoffrey James Smith, white Anglo Saxon Protestant.

As for your "First of all I like how you brought SA into it as an example of "bad Muslims" since they've developed a relationship with the POTUS" you have no clue. The Saudi government has been despised by the majority in the Middle East for years.

All this and not one reference to your original post of "Great. Let's see if the Muslim community comes forward to recognize their liberal hero's and thank them for their selfless sacrifice." that has been shown to have been utterly destroyed. Now $480,000 has been raised by the Muslim community - you're probably really upset about that since it goes against your agenda.

"He told us to go back to Saudi Arabia and he told us we shouldn't be here, to get out of his country," Words that you would echo.......And Trump would endorse behind closed doors

 

Only in your mind.

There is no post you've presented.

There are no Muslims donating to this fund, unless you count a bunch of white liberal "converts" to the cause.

No one has come forward to applaud 3 liberals trying to stop another liberal with a knife from being an idiot.

Those were his words huh? Wonder why he voted for Bernie then. Strange that. I guess that means Bernie endorsed his words and actions.

Just more democrats killing other democrats, as usual.

 

I did read it and nothing I said changes, apologists for Islamic terrorism are disgusting.

You found one abortion clinic shooter, and you make the freaking ignorant leap to claiming there as many Muslim terrorists in the USA as Christian terrorists.

You are free to find a similar list and point to the Christian terrorist attacks

Islamic Terror on American Soil

since 9/11, an additional 150 Americans have been killed in 52 separate acts of deadly Islamic terror or Islam-related honor killing in the United States.

 

Neither is funded by Saudi any more the bastards bit the hand that fed them one too many times. As for the rest of Your clap trap The chem weapons were from Germany from the US they got obsolescent HAWK anti aircraft missiles. The Taliban was one 1500 man brigade in a 30k force and it was called Charlie Wilson's war on the hill for a reason.

 

And again why did they do that rather than telling them to get out of town?

 

The indiscriminate area bombing did nothing to shorten the war. Any competent historian will tell you. In fact even when military targets were bombed crews seldom managed to drop bombs any closer than 2 miles from their targets, and 5 miles was about average.. All in all it was a costly failure.

 

Dead wrong of course. The one thing the bombing did do was leave the Germans with a huge personnel shortage by the end of the war. They were still able to turn out limited quantities of equipment, but they were having to man them with 13 to 15 year old boys because the bombing had helped to reduced the number of military age men available year by year before they could get to the front.

 

The US attacked Cambodia and Laos with a massive bombing campaign and that led to a large number of civilan deaths.
Was that terrorism justified and, since you have failed to answer, was 9/11 justified?

You seem to be avoiding answering.

 

Ah, so America is guilty of terrorism when they attack countries they have no declared war on.
Would you agree?

 

I neither agree nor disagree as I was not making a statement of my opinion, but rather correcting your misreading of his position.

 

You'd hope so too, wouldn't you? Considering Muslims only make up a fraction of our 320 MILLION POPULATION!

You do realize there's over 7 billion people on the planet right?

 

You need to look into the religious breakdown of residents in Mosul. It is much more complicated than you think and is something I have described several times in previous times. In summary, residents in Mosul are mainly Sunni. The Shia government does not want a million Sunni civilians going to Baghdad or anywhere south.

And a more direct simplistic answer to your question is where will those one million people go and who is going to vet them? Effectively they were contained

 

Tell me something I don't know. Dude they are going to go back to mosul once the fighting is over.

 

I not only told you 9/11 wasn't justified I told you why. As for Cambodia and Laos, you ever heard of the Ho Chi Minh Trail?

 

Probably thousands, including your armed forces - or not.

No, usually Christian prefer to safely drop bombs from above. They don't kill themselves doing it. The killers live afterwards.

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced that KKKs are in fact progressives.

You still got this Gitmo thing opened, where you torture people without a trial, yes?

So are US servicemen.

If it's evil when the other guy does it, it is usually also evil if you do it.

 

You know what? I'm sick to death of this stupid moral equivalency. There isn't any. You wanna know what the difference is. It's in the goals. The damned Jihadis are fighting to make us all slaves of their nonexistant God and of their own horrible version of him at that. They are after one thing and one thing only and it isn't freedom. They lust for power and it's written in every act they perform. To murder purely out of lust for power is the ultimate evil. We are fighting to prevent them from achieving that goal. Sadly we are placed in the position of having to kill these jackasses to prevent them from doing it.

Oh and for what it's worth the KKK were progressives in good standing in the 1930's. Hell the racist broad that founded planned parenthood gave speeches to their gatherings at least twice.

 

Finally something we agree with

 

Another Yankee who think they have been so far a boon on the world...

Change "Jihadis" in that paragraph and you just described the US' foreign policy. This the very mindset you denounce from your high horse. You sowed troubles, you reaped troubles - it's a natural law that even conservatives can't repel.

Your greed and lust for control has made that you turned middle-estern petty sqabbles into an international thing since you showed up in this part of the world. Apart for autocrats and zionists, you did nothing good there - to the contrary. You backed-up a foreign invasion in the Levant. You took down Mossadegh. You are making a war on anything that is secular out there to install capitalisto-puppets in their place.

Just think a second how you would react if you were on the other end of the stick. As we speak your country has made itself an accomplice to ISIL for their zionistic/Sauds majesties by attacking those who die to contain them. Yeah, ISIL, those very guys you appear to denounce.

Did you make a deal with them? How is it that they attack Europe and not you, not Israel, and not the Sauds? I don't trust you people for a second. You are the damn black hats here.

That's bllsht. One can't be progressive and a racist at the same time, 'lest they delude themselves. It's a contradiction. Racist people are either conservatives or regressives.

 

This idiot idea that everything wrong in the world is the direct responsibility of the US is absurdist nonsense. IN the Middle East this sort of bullshit we are seeing right now has been happening off and on since Mohamed conquered Mecca at the head of an army. Hell the very word assassin comes from the word Hashashin - Muslim assassins for god - in the 12th century. We went almost directly from dealing with Nazi would be world conquerors to Soviet would be world conquerors, to now Islamic Jihadist world conquerors. What the hell are we supposed to do stand back and let these assorted *******s win? Oh and I argue that one can hardly be a progressive and not be a racist. Only racists give a damn what color the wrapping paper is. Affirmative action is a race based law, that yields up advantages to people based on race. Racist need big government to enforce their nonsense.

And yes we have occasionally gotten things wrong either through poor execution of the plans or from bad intelligence. Neither the US nor any other country is perfect But perfection is not a possibility.

 

If you didn't plant them, you took great cares making them grow. With retrospect, pretty much all of your choice of action in the ME has revealed negative past the short-term.

But you (the US, Israel, Sauds...) do sit back and let thess *****s win. Not only do you make them stronger, but you attack those who contain them: Assad, Iran, Hisbollah... You always do that. Does "Moudjahidins" ring a bell? What were you thinking?

What the fck are you fighting for? Do you have any clue?

No - it impossible as racism is in opposition to progressivism. You might have progressive people who are/were, unconsciously or not, racists, but when they are they are in contradiction with their ideology. It's just that the GOP was once progressive, or that the Dems weren't. To an outsider, both of your parties are alike anyway.

Racism is a xenophobic, insecure and self-centered reaction. Watch out people to whom the hat fits - quite often you'll find a racist underneath.

 

As I said we make mistakes time to time and it seems to me that the progressives have made most of them. Assad was Obama's target, Hisbollah hasn't restricted much of anything other than the life expectancy of Lebanese Christians. And please the Progressives pretty much owned this country from 1932 to 1980. In fact Progressives arguably controlled the leadership positions in both parties. When Eisenhower spoke of the Military industrial complex he was speaking of that which the progressives had created out of whole cloth during the Great Depression and WWII. Who besides, the US was trying to restrict the USSR's attempt to conqueror the world via brush fire wars? About the only time Europe did anything with the exception of Great Britain, was when it occurred on their own soil, Baader-Meinhoff and Brigade Russe being two examples.
To prefer to restrict illegal immigration rather than acquiesce to open borders isn't xenophobic it's common sense. If you sneak across the border just as if you sneak into someone else's house you are announcing that your motives are likely suspect and I don't care what your skin color is.

 

Great post. Seriously great post. You nailed it. Spot on about the Klan and Margaret Sanger as well - a known eugenicist who started planned parenthood to basically eradicate blacks and other "human weeds" as she called them.

 

But--but--but---look what the IRA did decades ago! Pay no attention to the dead girls. Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

Oh well, let's just chill and treat our families to a trip to somewhere safe like Disneyworld, what could possibly happen there?..
Oh wait...

 

I think it's funny.