Mass killings by US forces in Afghanistan war

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  1. Moonglow

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    Less wage disparity between workers and corporate officers.
     
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    Like I said, it could have been worse also. As far as what Democrats say doesn't concern me just as what Republicans say.
     
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    There SHOULD be disparity. The CEO got went to Harvard while the goomie went tom PS 13. The CEO makes million dollar deals while the goomie loads stuff on the loading dock. Its not "disparity" it is WORTH.
     
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    Without the labor the CEO's job would not exist and not all went to Harvard and going to Harvard doesn't prove you are anything but rich to be able to afford Harvard. I know of several tycoons that didn't go to college.
     
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    Agreed.

    These past years that we've elected Replicant PotUSes have given them the ability, with pliant Congress, to put in place a system that benefits only the rich. Particularly as regards upper-income taxation.

    If the general American public cannot understand why an low-cost healthcare and post-secondary education are KEY to a better future for their families, they are condemned to "more of the same".

    The rich get richer and the poor can go to hell - which is, in fact, the lifestyle in which they are and likely to remain ... !
     
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    Ok... so the guy that empies the office trash cans should be paid the same as the guy that negotiates million dollar deals and doubles the revenues of the company... yeah... makes sense .... if you're a retard.
     
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    It's hard to see how it could have been worse.
     
  8. LafayetteBis

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    FREEBIE THIS!

    It's a freebie? The DoD is a "freebie". Watch your words, dense-head!

    What I want for my fellow Americans is what I got here in Europe. A National Healthcare that costs me next-to-nothing and ditto for a Post-secondary Education for my kids;

    Eat your hear out! Or your dumber-than-dumb because you cannot see how healthcare and education are freebies-by-nature. This is, the basics for which our taxes should be the key eason. These two government offerings are the key-paybacks for the taxes we pay!

    Not a DoD that takes our kids and kills them in the far-east for no good reason whatsoever! I prefer that they remain at home, get a damn fine post-secondary education that prepares them for a good-paying job for themselves and their families!

    Now YOU tell me what's so wrong about that notion ... !
     
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    Did you count them head-by-head ... ?

    PS: Who the hell cares, anyway. Chiding Biden is of no consequence whatsoever. Except to the brainless Replicants ....
     
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    FAIR AND SQUARE

    Since when does an idea need a source!

    You're barking up the wrong tree, because that is all you got. Try exercising your brains by proposing any argument that supports the brainless-Replicant governments that have infested American government for the past 40 years! You-plural have got us into a war that we could not win, and you wont take the blame for your Colossal Error!

    All the Replicants can see are the Big-Bucks for the Big-Guys who generate them because low upper-income taxation is what politics is ALL ABOUT for them!

    Just look at the distribution of Income Earnings in the US here: Wikipedia Household Income*

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    Which shows the percentage distribution of household income. From that graphic we know that 45% (nearly half!) of American households live on a income of less than $50K a year (and that is before taxation).

    Now you tell me how that sharing is "fair and square" for a country as rich as the United States ... ???

    *This graphic aboe is somewhat dated. (2007)
     
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    DoD is a freebie? I pay a lot of taxes for it. DoD doesn't send me welfare, free anything. What are you talking about? (Step away from the bong... take a deep breath...)

    You think your medical and education are free? LOL... take a look at your outrageous income taxes... Value Added Taxes and all the rest... you're getting raped! (I love shopping in Europe and filling out the VAT exemption form as the locals watch in horror... LOL)

    Our military is VOLUNTEER. You and your ilk have NOTHING to worry about... your cowardly kids would NEVER volunteer to defend freedom... and without a draft.... the military will remain as far from their experience as as earning their own way in life. No One "takes" our kids. That's been long gone since 1973. You are simply a socialist... a loser unable to care for himself so he needs to burden his country with the task. We get it... socialism has a long history... of failure.
     
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    Income is EARNED. Its not a right to get free money. You get paid what your labor is worth in the marketplace. This isn't rocket science.
     
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    It is not a black vs white paradigm . Agree that there should be disparity - but that disparity should be limited for publicly traded Oligopolies - as should the disparity between the shareholders and the workers.

    This limitation is not so much on the upside as it is on the downside - a certain amount of the profits of the company should reside with the workers - and as such in the parent nation economy - the rest funneled out of the nation via dividends to foreign shareholders.
     
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    When your own party is against you, that's bad.
     
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    Nope, I live in France and ALL MEDICAL CARE is a "freebie".

    Which is why my lifespan in France is four years longer than yours in the US!

    And yes, it's a "free ride" that benefits millions upon millions in Europe ... !
     
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    Independent, yes.

    Thinker? Nope ... !
     
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    Wow. So you are a socialist. I get it. I am a capitalist. We should earn everything we get, in a perfect world... and surgeons should earn a lot more than postal workers. The profits should belong in he hands of the shareholders. If the workers want a part of the profits, they should choose to work for a company that practices profit sharing. They should not go to work for a company that does not. I always chose the company I worked for very carefully, ensuring that they had excellent medical benefits, a fantastic compensation package and the like. I looked for companies where I could excel... not companies that gave me stuff just for being there.
     
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    Ok... you are a socialist... we get it. Socialism has failed from Venezuela to Russia to Cuba and more. Go for it. We won't.
     
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    Another black and white paradigm in this "Simplistic World" you seem to think exists. nothing in between laissez faire - and communism - in a desperate attempt to label and then demonize the messenger.

    You follow this up with a claim 'Profits should belong in hands of shareholders" - with no justification for claim other than the workers can go somewhere else if they don't like it.

    Back up your claim - tell us why you think companies should be able to engage in slave labor in the USA - and filter the profits out of the company untaxed - to nameless faceless shareholders .. who don't even live in the country never mind support the economy.

    This is called economic rape - and while we like to do this to other nations .. as it is very profitable - odd that you would wish this on yourself and your own nation.
     
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    You are the only one mentioning slave labor... not me. And its pretty arrogant of you to say I mentioned it. Wait, I take that back. Its a lie. You simply don't tell the truth.
    And I never said ANYTHING AT ALL about taxes. Again, you are simply making things up. Step away from the bong, take some deep breaths... and try again.
    I worked for large corporations for decades after leaving the Army. They paid well at all levels, had great benefits (paid for $500,000 worth of triple bypass heart surgery for me in 2014... thank God it was then... medical was curtailed to a large degree when the Obamacare mandate hit). No one forces anyone to work for substandard wages. Do YOU? Why? What motivated you to go to work for substandard wages? I find that interesting. I never would. I don't know anyone that would.
    Employees can be shareholders, by the way. I had lots of my 401K contributions going to Boeing stock when I worked for them. Boeing is a great company.
     
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    I didn't say you mentioned it - you were the one that has this black vs white paradigm with nothing in between .. calling me a Socialist because I talked about Oligopolies - and other things you clearly do not understand. It is not my fault that Ologopolism results in a form of indentured servitude - and that you don't know this -thus thinking I was referring to you mentioning something that is completely over your head .. rather than to my previous post to which you were responding ..

    I worked for the largest of corporations as well not sure if you have heard of GE .. "Back in the Day" - and they paid much better back then along with working for numerous other corporations .. after decades of mergers and whittling out the competition .. the finance dept squeezes every penny ot of the salesperson .. the one who should be paid for keeping the ship afloat .. and if you go to the next shop .. case it was whittled down to two in one of the sectors in which I worked - if you don't like it .. there's the door .. and the other door - gonna be exactly the same.

    Used to be10-12 companies vying for salespeople in this sector - when you sold something you got paid proper .. not like that no more mate - and thats the problem... your looking at everything from a myopic self centered perspective -- should try and think from the perspective of others once in awhile.

    My 401 K is big" ?? - what kind of nonsense is this. ..
     
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    "Black vs white paradigm"???. There you go again... making it about race when no one else mentioned race. No one is forcing anyone to work anywhere. How can anyone be an "indentured servant" these days when they can go across the street and earn a better salary, more benefits , and good wages? You make no sense.

    Wow... GE sounds awful... "whittling away personnel" and "squeezing pennies". Boeing, and later Lockheed, were just the opposite. They paid top dollar to get the talent needed for success. I spent a lot of time as a "Business Developer" traveling the world talking to our own WARRIORS as well as those of our allies to find out what sort of things they's like to see. That's how we came up with bolometer night vision systems before there was ever even a published requirements document... and personal inertial guidance trackers for use when GPS was jammed... and interactive training systems for the Marines. The company gave me a lot of money to explore and find new programs. When I came back to lead engineer teams to design and build the things they rewarded me well for my success. No "squeezing pennies" in sight. There were, however, some "stock options" for me when things went well. Sorry you couldn't keep up.

    No one was "shown the door" without serious negligence involved. A good friend of mine left Boeing to explore a startup. It failed. Rather than refuse to take him back, Boeing brought him back with extra benefits to help with a child he had that was "challenged". Great company.

    I still keep my hand in as a consultant and I see lots of similar success, from a sniper aid which allows detection of wind velocity throughout the path of the bullet, to a system which detects injury and automatically alerts the network of contact and the injury. Success abounds and pay remains good. I am sorry you hooked up with losing outfits that are "not like that no more mate". Perhaps you should have kept better control of your career... or tried harder... You have my sympathy though. Sorry you couldn't keep up. But your attitude needs work in any case. Perhaps you shouldn't be so myopic. Perhaps your failure could have been prevented if you opened your eyes a bit.
     
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    Black vs white paradigm does not refer to race - and you have no idea what an Oligopoly is - How old are you ? is English your native language ?
     
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    Oligopoly is playing two games of Monopoly at once. Its also can refer to the one with the crayon at the kids table, which is probably where you heard it. I'm retirement age, well educated, born and raised in New York (that makes me a Native American).
     

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