McCabe thinks Trump may be a Russian asset

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  1. Hoosier8

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    Trump is a clear and present danger to the United States according to people who would know.
     
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    LOL, another opinion shot down by the Mueller report but hey, one must have their fantasies.
     
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    Trump's close ties with Netanyahu while unilaterally proclaiming Jerusalem the capital of Israel has removed the U.S. from Middle East talks because the Arab republics do not trust him. Neither do Great Britain or France because Trump is unpredictable and unreliable. The U.S. has been replaced by Russia.

    Trump removed the U.S. from the Paris Accord to which there are 197 signatories. Under Trump, the U.S. joins with the major emitters led by Russia.

    Because it was signed during the Obama administration, Trump removed the U.S. from the JCPOA which permanently barred Iran from making a nuke. He has been urging the Iranian leaders to agree to talks for a new agreement that permanently bars Iran from making a nuke. In the meantime, Iran has followed Trump's example and is in violation of the JCPOA. Our allies are trying desperately to save the agreement. Trump is opposing our allies' intentions.

    Trump has removed the U.S. from lucrative trade agreements, TPP, NAFTA, and has not signed a major trade agreement in 2 1/2 years.

    Much to Putin's delight, Trump has weakened NATO with his constant jabs at our NATO partners. The recent G-7 conference went nearly as bad as last year's G-7 conference and there was no common statement of cooperation.

    Trump has threaten the vibrant American economy. Because of his trade war with China, even he is concerned about a possible recession as consumer confidence is dropping along with the manufacturing index. Trump's harsh tariffs cause inflation, and inflation causes recession. To illustrate all of this, the stock market has been treading water since January 2018. On Jan. 29, 2018, the Dow stood at 26,439. Right now the Dow is at 26,794. It has been below the Jan. 2018 figure for most of August due to Trump's tweets.
     
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    No doubt about it. In fact I would be surprised if the US can recover. I think he has destroyed the country. And I know I will never trust this country again.

    This is not a good country anymore; not when someone like trump can get elected. The only answer is to dump the red states and carry on the American dream without them.
     
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    Trump has destroyed the Republic, and the next election will be the continuing of the Republican effort to convert America to a one-party state.

    Unfortunately, the Dems are up for that challenge. A massive blue victory will result in breaking the EC (with the NPV) and stuffing the Supreme Court. The GOP will never win another general election.
     
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    I think that he's more of a stooge.
    He doesn't really like the US, and the Russians have had him by the shorthairs for years because of his financial dependence on them, but he's too incompetent to be really useful. Let's call him 3/5 of an asset.
    Still, they can use him to do a lot of damage.
     
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  8. jack4freedom

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    Yeah, right. Hillary Clinton has been accused of everything from mass murder to running demonic child sex rings for the last 40 years by the Hannitized Ditto Head morons of this country. She has been investigated endlessly for decades by ruthless packs of GOP Congressional jackals and tons of crackpot journalists and yet they haven’t even been able to hang so much as a parking ticket on her. I am not particularly enamored with her brand of Bush/Clinton politics and have never voted for either one of them but you guys are off the rails and unhinged when it comes to them. Comey screwed her over last election and handed it to your boy champ. That’s the fact.

    If she’s so dirty, why haven’t Sessions, Rosenstein or Barr indicted her?

    Here is the simple answer:

    Because all of the accusations that the bullshit tabloids have advanced about her and lying scum like Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity and Breitbart have been puking out for decades is a steaming pile of crap.

    Come back to Earth and try to free yourself from your acute case of CDS. She’s an old woman who lived a life in politics won a few battles and lost her last campaign. That’s it champ. Let it go! She lost.
     
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    I can't countenance breaking up our country, but I agree with you that the deplorables are a clear and present danger to our country and will linger on after trump is gone and need to be dealt with.
    But remember that there have been other periods in our history that have been as racist and bigoted, and people have risen above it.
    It will happen again.
    Hatred, greed, bigotry and fear are part of human nature, and the weakest ones always fall prey to them and bring pain and suffering to everyone else.
    The best way to fight the deplorables of any era is education and modelling the right way to be, not being dragged down to their level.
     
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    I don't think so. Not one person who voted for trump has a clue whats made America great. The fundamental nobility that made America great has been lost.

    What made America great was that we at least tried do the right thing. Those days are gone if someone like trump can be elected. There is no way in hell trump could have been elected since at least the civil war, until now.
     
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    How well has winning hearts and minds worked in the middle east? We are dealing with the same mentality here now.

    How can you win hearts and minds of people who don't even believe in basic science? There is no logic. All the world is a liberal conspiracy to them. They have been damaged beyond repair by decades of hate radio, fox noise, and extremist websites. It is too late.

    And I think it is better to end the union than wait for a civil war. At least this way the breakup can be managed.
     
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    Oh give it a rest she's barely been looked at let alone investigated by anyone really digging. Not since Ken Starr anyway and the star water gate witness died of an 'apparent' heart attack they day after he agreed to testify. An awful lot of such coincidences surround the Clintons.
     
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    Clinton was investigated by the FBI as well as by Trey Gowdy nine times. The only answer to the above is 'go away until you have something of worth.'
     
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    Government has not made this country great. Government can't make any country good let alone great. That's up to individual hearts and minds. Frankly at this point I'm not sure you, or sadly anyone else on the left, have the least idea what greatness is or how to achieve it.
     
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    Keep drinking the Clinton as a mass murderer koolaid served up by a bunch of lying gossips. There is no hope for you champ. When she dies you guys will probably want to dig her up...

    .She is a woman born in the Midwest to a middle class family and was a Goldwater girl as a kid. She got scholarships to Vassar and Yale then met Willy who was born to poor trailer park people and he worked his ass off to get a scholarship to Georgetown, Yale and was a Rhodes Scholar. These are typical Americans who worked their way up the political ladder from the bottom up. He is a skirt chaser and a clever politician and she is a bit of a c*nt, sure but not the demonic entity that you have been trained to believe she is.

    I remember when all this madness started. Back in ‘93 when rich right wing nuts like Richard Mellon Scaife and others recruited a failed shock jock named Rush Limbaugh to trash her and her husband on national radio 4 hours a day then came the bevy of copycat Rush’s running 24-7-365 for years on end followed by scumbag rapist Roger Ailes and Fox News.

    You’ve been duped champ. She is nothing more than a middle of the road opportunistic political whore like 90% of the rest of them. And she is all washed up for Christ’s sake. She had her chance but her extreme c*ntishness cost her along with running a lazy campaign. Try to get over her already.
     
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    In opposition to his own advisors, his vice president, and Congressional leaders of his own party, Trump admitted that inviting terrorists who had harbored Al Qaeda to Camp David a few days before the anniversary of 9/11 was his idea and his idea alone.

    "We had a meeting scheduled. It was my idea and it was my idea to terminate it. I didn't even discuss it with anyone else," Trump said on the White House lawn where he usually holds his news conferences.

    Apparently, Trump's NSA, John Bolton, was vehemently opposed to Trump's screwy idea to bring terrorists to Camp David. Trump fired him today. It is not a coincidence that Trump disclosed this secret meeting on Saturday, and, by Monday, Bolton is gone. Discretion is not one of Bolton's long suits.

    It isn't the first time prominent members of Trump's foreign policy team have quit or been fired. It has become a rather common occurrence, actually.

    Rex Tillerson was trying to forge an agreement whereby the Korean Peninsula would be freed of nuclear weapons. Trump told him he was wasting his time. Tillerson became the shortest lived secstate in the history of the U.S.

    The DNI, Dan Coats, was fired because he didn't always provide intelligence Trump liked.

    Mike Flynn lasted less than a month as Trump's NSA. He is now a convicted felon facing jail time for lying to the FBI.

    Flynn was replaced by General H.R. McMaster. He didn't last long, and Bolton replaced him.

    General John Kelly quit as Trump's chief of staff in December 2018.

    General James Mattis resigned in December in protest because Trump foolishly wanted to withdraw American troops from Syria, leaving the ground to Russia. American troops are still in Syria.

    Trump fired Kirstjen Nielson, DHS secretary.

    Patrick Shanahan didn't even get a chance to serve. Trump nominated him to replace Mattis, then pulled the plug on his nomination.

    So, working for Trump in the areas of foreign policy or our national security can create problems in terms of one's employment longevity.

    As a candidate for President, Trump had no foreign policy experience and no military experience.

    Putin loves it.
     
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    If Putin had planted a Russian agent in the Oval Office, he couldn't be doing any better than Trump.
     
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    AS they say there are none so blind as those who refuse to see. But I do hope you are correct that she is done.
     
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    I have seen, read and heard all of the crap thrown at both Clintons for 30 years now. I just know the difference between lies, distortions and slander and real news. Evidently you don’t.
     
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    Isn't this thread about Trump? Going from a false weather forecast to inviting terrorists to Camp David to firing his third NSA, I would think there would be plenty to talk about.

    Trumpets love it they can talk about anyone not named Trump. Trump's fans desperately want to stay away from Trump, and Hillary is always their preferred choice.
     
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    Jake, jack4freedom is a Trumpet. I have encountered him before. He is a shill, encouraging discussion away from Trump.
     
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    Right after Hillary Clinton is indicted for mass murder and operating that child sex ring in the pizza parlor. We have to focus on the really BIG crimes first. Don’t you agree?
     
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    Lol
     
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    ah, jack, we knew ye not.
     
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    There's two Jack's dude.
     

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