McCabe thinks Trump may be a Russian asset

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  1. Daggdag

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    No one ever said that Russia FORCED people to vote for Trump. We said that Russian spread lies and false information over the internet, and hacked the DNC and Clinton campaign servers (and put computer viruses in them) so undermine their ability to operate.

    Now, if Russia has done this to Trump, you would be calling for war against then. But like usual, the far right only care about the law when it involves protecting their own interest. it's completely fine for Russia to committ acts of terrorism and war against the United States if it helps your side.

    You are all ****ing traitors.
     
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    You have a lot of claims without proof. First, the FBI never did a forensic examination of the DNC servers. No one has ever claimed they downloaded viruses. The false claims of the DNC were never hampered. The Trump hating media was much more invasive and still couldn't bring down Trump.

    Yeah, voters are traitors. LOL, what a hoot. Many on the left are totally unhinged.
     
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    1; The FBI DID look at the servers. The far right spread lies that the DNC refused to allow it. What the DNC refused was giving them access to parts of their system that showed no signs of being compromised, but the FBI did have access to the parts that were hacked.

    2; The FBI, CIA, and US Military Intelligence all say that Russia hacked the DNC and Clnton servers. Trump went on international tv, with Putin and called them liars, and said he believes Putin over them.

    3; Russia started over 200 shell companies in the US and used them to illegally donate over $100 million to the Trump campaign, and various anti-Clinton, Pro-Trump PAC's. (This is another thing that the FBI, CIA, and Military intelligence says is true that Trump and his cultists say is a lie)

    4; In polls after the election, voters were asked why they chose to vote for Trump. A number of voters cited stories that are known to have been false ones placed by Russia. So they might not have forced people to vote for Trump, but they were responsible for the misinformation and false propaganda that caused at least some people to vote for him.
     
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    McCabe thinks Trump may be a Russian asset

    Trump thinks McCabe is a traitor. So do I.
     
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    LOL, CNN's Toobin in defense of McCabe is now claiming "prosecuting lying in these very esoteric circumstances, is very rare"

    Replace McCabe's name with General Flynn and you can see the blatant hypocrisy of the left.
     
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    You won't catch me calling for war of any sort. But I find it strange that you think self interest is traitorous. Find me a person devoid of self interest. Well maybe mother Theresa.
     
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    Boom
     
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    When you overlook crimes committed against your own country by an hostile nation, and side with our enemies against our own intelligence workers? Yes I would call that treason.
     
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    It is extremely disturbing to realize how many millions of people who support Trump have a belief system built on a mountain of lies.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-.../missing-servers-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/

    And even more disturbing to know that when presented with the truth they will find a way to ignore it.
     
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    Andrew McCabe’s legal team asks Justice Dept. if grand jury rejected charges in his case
    https://beta.washingtonpost.com/nat...4b1974-d631-11e9-9343-40db57cf6abd_story.html

    "The legal team for Andrew McCabe has asked federal prosecutors in the District whether a grand jury had rejected their bid to indict the FBI’s former acting director on charges of lying to investigators, pointing to media inquiries and news accounts detailing a series of unusual events in the case.

    In emails Thursday to U.S. Attorney Jessie Liu and other prosecutors in her office, McCabe lawyer Michael Bromwich said his team had received media inquiries about grand jurors declining to bring the case, and pointed to published reports describing how even after the Justice Department approved prosecutors to seek charges, no indictment was returned."
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    Despicable Don's personal vendetta against McCabe for rightly carrying out the duty assigned to the FBI may have hit a stone wall.
     
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    Gary Johnson, the left-winger who claims to be a libertarian. Got it!
     
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    "To bring charges against McCabe, prosecutors would have to convince 12 of 23 grand jurors that there was probable cause he had committed a crime — a low legal bar. This week, it seemed prosecutors were on track to do so. But grand jurors came and went with no public indictment being returned. That could be a sign they balked, though it is also possible they have filed a determination under seal or could be asked to return later."
     
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    But I did no such thing.
     
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    Mc Cabe didn't know what you say he knew about Trump because there was no credible evidence of it. A two year investigation proved that. He launched the investigation in the hope of forcing him out of office. Most of us refer to that as a coup d'etat.
     
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    I don't know that they have any regard for the rule of law. It may be that rather than trying to persuade them to act with integrity, which they show no interest in, that we will simply have impose the Rule Of Law against them when they violate the rights of others.

    GENERAL FLYNN GOES ON OFFENSE AGAINST THE DEEP STATE
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    Several months ago, General Michael Flynn replaced his original defense team with Sidney Powell, a Texas lawyer who is a veteran of the Department of Justice and author of Licensed To Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice. Powell appears to be a very good lawyer. She certainly is aggressive. Powell has launched an all-out attack against Flynn’s dishonest and corrupt prosecutors. It's a real horror how deeply involved the FBI and DOJ were in the Russia collusion hoax.

    Powell’s motion to compel further production of documents from the corrupt and dishonest prosecution was unsealed. The Federalist:

    Yesterday’s filing expanded exponentially on the areas of evidence Powell seeks and lays bare Powell’s bigger plan moving forward: to expose the breadth and depth of SpyGate and how flaying Flynn lay at the heart of the coup attempt.​

    In her Motion to Compel, Powell catalogued 40 categories of evidence the government has refused to turn over. She seeks a court order requiring federal prosecutors to provide the withheld evidence under Brady and its progeny. Brady and its offshoots require prosecutors to disclose material exculpatory and impeachment evidence to the defense team.​

    Powell’s detailed requests indicate that she has a good idea what went on behind the scenes as DOJ and the FBI were trying to set up Donald Trump:

    [H]er bid for this information shows that Powell has in three short months pieced together more tiles in the mosaic of the Russia collusion fraud than Robert Mueller did in two years.
    These are actual requests for evidence that she has before the court:

    • Any and all evidence that during a senior-attended FBI meeting or video conference, Andrew McCabe said, “First we fxck Flynn, then we fxck Trump,” or words to that effect.
    • A letter delivered by the British Embassy to the incoming National Security team after Donald Trump’s election, and to outgoing National Security Advisor Susan Rice (the letter disavows former British Secret Service Agent Christopher Steele, calls his credibility into question, and declares him untrustworthy).
    • All payments, notes, memos, correspondence, and instructions, by and between the FBI, CIA or DOD with Stefan Halper–going back as far as 2014–regarding Michael Flynn, Svetlana Lokhova, Mr. Richard Dearlove (of MI6), and professor Christopher Andrew (connected with MI5) and Halper’s compensation through the DOD Office of Net Assessment as evidenced by the whistleblower complaint of Adam Lovinger….
    • Unredacted copies of all memos created by or other communications from James Comey that mention or deal with any any investigation, surveillance, FISA applications, interviews, or use of a confidential human source or “OCONUS lures” against Mr. Flynn.
    • An internal DOJ document dated January 30, 2017, in which the FBI exonerated Mr. Flynn of being “an agent of Russia.”
    The federal government’s prosecution of General Flynn is so corrupt, so dishonest, so egregious, that it should be dismissed.
     
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    The Left LOVES to use projection. They transfer their own thoughts and emotions onto others. If anyone is a Russian asset, it is McCabe. After all, he and his department allowed Russia to mess in our elections and he then used a foreign spy who paid Russia for false information to try to bring down a presidential candidate, and when that didn't happen, tried to bring down a sitting president. He is a traitor.
     
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    He IS a libertarian. The fake libertarians on the far right, who support things like gay marriage bans and other facsist BS are the ones who don't have the right to call themselves libertarians.

    Johnson is a TRUE libertarian.
    He opposes over-regulation, but still supports regulations needed to protect public health, like polutions law, and other such things.
    He opposes government interference in peoples' private lives, unless their choices have effects on others, who do not consent to being effected.
    He opposes uncessesary government control of private business, but still supports regulations designed to protect consumers and employees from undue burdens being places upon them.

    THAT is what libertarian is SUPPOSED to be. The far right love to label themselves a libertarians, but in the end, there is nothing they love more than using "big government" to control peoples' iives. They are just as bad as the far left when it comes to supporting big government.
     
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    You didn't? You have in the past, supported Trump's claims that Russia never interfered, despite the clear consensus among the US intelligence community that they did.

    Hacking US servers is an act of cyber-terrorism, and cyber-terrorism is considered to be an act of war in many cases. So yes you overlook attacks on the US by a hostile nation, and I consider that to be treason..
     
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    I don't think so. I did claim that there was no collusion with Trump.

    You won't be able to find a law that defines treason as overlooking something, despite what you may consider.
     
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    That's your definition of a libertarian.
     
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    The Trumpers know very well that big time cheating was going on. So do we and so does anybody with a brain in their head. The Trumpers don't CARE, They 're going to go right on shouting "fake news" and they're going to cheat even MORE the next time

    The only way to stop them is to NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN, not for anything and not for anybody. There's only so many votes they can steal
     
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    What cheating are you referring too?
     
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    The cheating that all the Trumpers and everyone else know was going on and is about to be going on again. They're not even trying to hide it any more and there's really no point in denying it any further, nobody is listening to Trump or the Trumpers any more. Save our democracy. Don't vote Republican
     
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    Again, what cheating are you referring too?
     

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