McCabe thinks Trump may be a Russian asset

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Prosecutors don't exonerate. They either charge or they don't charge. He did not charge.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not what I said (Strawman) .. and your narrative is all over the Map

    1) The intelligence agencies did not claim Trump was involved - so how could this be a vast conspiracy against Trump ? - and I said nothing of the sort.

    2) Perhaps there was Russian Interference - what does this have to do with Trump?

    Perhaps Russiagate is overblown.

    First off - it was not all the you agencies mentioned ... it was 3 - NSA, CIA, FBI - and even the use of the term "Agency" -as if it was the whole agency is misleading because it was a few hand picked individuals from each agency .. hand picked by by Establishment wonk - Clapper the dude who lied to congress (felony 1) about en mass spying (felony 2). Some high level voices have stated that they were picked to come to a pre-ordained conclusion - no need to get into this though as ether way your narrative is flawed.

    Perhaps some Russians - even one's working for the Russian Gov't - put up some facebook ads. So what ? Have you looked at these Ads ? - I will give you one example - A pic of Bernie with the caption "The Clinton Foundation is a Problem".

    Bernie said this countless times - so it is not new information to the electorate - and so would not cause some Clinton supporting Dem to run out and vote for Trump. Nor is it "Propaganda" - as it does not contain any falsehoods = Bernie said this.

    Then we heard about the hack - the one that uncovered details about how Clinton/DNC meddled with our electoral process in what was done to Bernie.

    Now this likely had an impact - The Bernie Supporters would not be happy - and while perhaps not Running out and voting Red - may have just stayed home. That Russia did the hack is not clear - Assange said he got the info elsewhere and there are other problems. No matter as lets say Russia did do the hack.

    The fact of the matter is that regardless of where this information came from ... it was the Truth. How does the voter knowing the truth about some candidate prior to an election "Harm"our electoral process. Which was the narrative that was being peddled.

    How does the facebook ad I posted - which was The Truth - "Harm" our electoral process ?
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    The KGB? LMFAO!

    Are you a Russian bot? A Chinese Bot?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, the United States is a republic.
     
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    It is not one individual or even one group .. but we know some of the main ones. Just follow the money :)

    You know that Trump was bailed out of bankruptcy - numerous times. He was bailed out by the Rockefeller - Rothschild consortium which includes obviously - a bunch of other names that you know - just go through the list of banks and financial houses. Morgan "JP Morgan", Mellon's and so on. .. this would be one of the bigger clubs.

    It was Wilbur Ross - employed at a Rothschild financial entity - was the fellow that bailed Trump out of bankruptcy... and that Trump appointed Wilbur as commerce secretary - an obvious quid pro quo - one that no one seems to mention.

    It is the agenda of this group - and others- that Trump caters to - when ever he can - not "Putin" ... that's just stupid.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See post 180
     
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    No the reason Trump was investigated is because he was a Republican...
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, but you are obviously a Trumpian Bot. They're a rather crude type, consisting of human beings that don't even know they've been programed.
     
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    The left has become the new paranoid, delusional, NeoCons.
     
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    And the reason Hillary and Bill Clinton we’re investigated for 30 years is because they were Democrats.
     
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    No, because the Clintons were criminals, and people die around them. Trump on the other hand has never been remotely linked to any crime...
     
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    I'm sure Putin is a mentor :roll:
     
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    I didn't say Trump was involved in Russia's interference. I said that Trump pubkically sided with RUSSIA against the United States. He went on tv, with Putin, and called the entire US intelligence communities liars for saying that Russia interfered in the election, and states clearly that he believed Putin over them.

    I also said that the cyber-attacks by Russia on the DNC and Clinton servers were acts of war and cyber-terrorism. They are an enemy nation committing hostile actsagainst the United States and Trump and his cult sided with them over us. Siding with a hostile nation against the US is literally the definition of treason.
     
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    And John Gotti is just an innocent plumbing supplies dealer, railroaded by a vengeful State Prosecutor for being Italian and dressing well.
     
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    To be critical of our President - or our intelligence services is not siding with a hostile nation. What you are saying is ridiculous - beyond simplistic - and completely bereft of context or justification - and something one might hear from an authoritarian dictator.
     
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    So the President of the United States calling the ENTIRE US intelligence community liars, and claiming that they are conspiring to frame Russia is not siding with Russia? Cause that is what he said. He claimed that the entire intelligence community was part of a plot to cost him the election (even though they were investigating Russia well before he ever became the frontrunner)

    When the president see's evidence that a foreign nation committed terrorism and acts of war against our nation, and decides the evidence is fake and sides with our enemy, that is treason.
     
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    1) calling the entire intelligence community liars - is not Treason - it is treason not to call out these liars.
    2) Siding with Russia against a bunch of liars is not Treason

    3) - Trump did not call the entire intelligence community Liars with respect any acts of war or terrorism against the US. Your claim that the entire intelligence community was all involved in the determination that Russia did the hack is a complete falsehood - and you were told why this is the case previously

    4) There were no "acts of war" or terrorism committed . What on earth are you talking about and what does this have to do with Trump - or anything he said with respect to Russia committing acts of war or terrorism.

    You are all over the map - conflating multiple issues that do not relate to each other in a partisan anti Trump diatribe.

    Lastly - Trump IMO - has committed acts that are Treasonous to the US - Just none of the things you mentioned reach that bar.
     

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