Mexican Guns

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  1. Well Bonded

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    Incorrect, a ghost gun is one that has never had a serial number applied, which by the way is legal to own, a gun with it's serial number altered or removed is a modified firearm and is illegal under federal law.

    Maybe learn a bit more about the subject before posting anymore BS.
     
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    Totally false, gun crimes are through the roof in the UK due to illegally imported firearms.
     
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    Total BA, it has been proven the first AWB did nothing what so ever to lower the crime rate.
     
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    The ATF defines a "ghost gun" as a firearm without a serial number, but thanks for the condescending attitude.
     
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    Cite, please.
     
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    A "ghost gun" is simply a receiver (the only part required to have serialization as defined by the GCA) that is made by the owner for non-commercial use (can not be sold).

    If a reciever was at one time serialized by the manufacturer and the serial number was removed or altered, then it is not a "ghost gun".

    Side not: the hyperbole involved in naming these is ridiculous, conjured by government to frighten the ignorant.
     
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    The (D)ishonest know they must prey upon the emotions of the ignorant to push their agenda.
     
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    1, meh

    2, there shouldn't be a such thing and I'm not sure that there is as obtaining a handgun illegally. The only people that should be forbidden from obtaining a handgun are people who have been adjudicated through the process.

    3, it's impossible to have a background check for Private sales, what if I just don't do it? Are you going to have to employee psychic cops to be able to know?

    Ghost gun is a term developed to describe guns that are assembled out of parts. I don't know if you're aware of this but every gun ever to exist on the planet was assembled out of parts.

    A person should be able to remove serial numbers from their guns it is their property. Serial numbers aren't really valuable in law enforcement because there's not really a database of who owns what gun based on serial number. It's mostly for manufacturer use.
     
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    Mexico is suing several US gun manufacturers. 13 states and D.C. support the lawsuit.

    "The attorneys general of 13 states and Washington DC this week expressed support for a federal lawsuit by the Mexican government that accuses a group of American gun manufacturers of facilitating the trafficking of weapons to criminals in Mexico, fueling gun violence....

    "The defendants' practices, Mexico claimed, 'aid and abet the killing and maiming of children, judges, journalists, police, and ordinary citizens' and have 'reduced the life expectancy of Mexican citizens and cost the Government billions of dollars a year.' The lawsuit also said that despite a decline in immigration, the violence causes Mexicans to leave and 'seek out security' in the US."
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/06/us/mexico-lawsuit-us-gun-manufacturers/index.html
     
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    What are those practices?

    Why aren't they suing the Mexican Army?
     
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    Interesting. I thought it was the US Government that was responsible for all the guns going to Mexico.
     
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    ~ The infamous 'Operation Fast & Furious '. Got Eric Holder on the hot seat covering for Obama !
     
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    I have one question. Do you know what a "ghost gun" is?

    I thought this was an interesting article:
     
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    Let us know when the first time a gun by itself kills someone please. Legal or illegal.
     
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    I wish the typical Mexican could easily obtain guns and ammo, it would be a death blow to the cartels.
     
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    ~ This is true .
     
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    Ghost guns are unserialized and untraceable firearms that can be bought online and assembled at home with a kit, which are rapidly gaining in popularity.
    Your NRA reference keeps going to 404 error, but I know about Fast and Furious it was an idiotic ATF scheme to bust the cartels that let in approximately 2000 firearms, through straw purchasers, into Mexico 10 years ago. 34 were arrested for straw purchasing.
    You did notice "in the last 10 years 2.5 million guns have arrived in Mexico from the north." quote you were responding to?
    That's deep.
     
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    False.
    It is against federal law to sell a gun w/o a serial number.
    A "ghost gun" is a gun -you manufacture yourself- w/o a serial number, for your own use.
    There are a number of ways to do this, the most popular of which right now is to buy 80% complete receivers and then finishing it with a drill and a jig.
    The remaining parts, like for any other firearm, can be bought as a kit, but none of those parts mean anything w/o the finished receiver.
     
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    "Ghost gun" like "gun nut" is a slang term. There is a generally agreed meaning but definitions may vary, but thank you for your input.
     
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    So, you use the term to mean whatever you want.
    Convenient.
     
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    That's exactly what I stated.
     
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    Again quite incorrect, ghost gun is a legal term, gun nut is a anti-gunner hate term.
     
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    Maybe Biden should build a wall on the SW border.
     
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    What exactly is a "gun fair?" Sounds like a British term. I thought you claimed to live in Chicago?
     
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    Well , if they shut down gun smuggling to the UK, they'll have to go back to machetes and pit bulls and physical size to commit crimes.
     
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