MGTOW.....!!!!

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  1. doombug

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    These videos are all over YouTube. There is MGTOW and Angry MGTOW and so forth. It stands for "Men Going Their Own Way". It is a philosophy of men basically rejecting what society tells them about women[feminism] and living their lives to look out for their own well being.

    Meh, I am not a huge fan of it myself but I do find it interesting because it seems to be a back lash against feminism and modern society.

    I started living my life based on a similar philosophy years ago. It has worked out quite well. Back then I travelled to other countries and noticed how screwed up US society had became. It was refreshing to go to different cultures that were not in constant uproar over being obsessed with equality. Of course that has gotten worse in the past few years and as a result we have things like MGTOW popping up.

    Hey, who am I to criticize? I am just sitting back and enjoying the show.
     
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    Not ever interested in YouTube but by the looks of that pic he has also gone his own way as far as hair care, hygiene and prevention of nits is concerned
     
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    LOL! I agree. Some of the guys making these videos are a little "out there" in my opinion. I do believe it has the possibility of catching on though. Not my thing, of course, but I could see many men that feel disenfranchised jumping on board.
     
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    I'll give women their rights, but if they don't perform a function that is beneficial to the family, they are fired..
     
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    I kinda found a balance myself. My wife was not raised in the feminist world. Best move I ever made.
     
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    So do nits - does not mean we should encourage them :p
     
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    As my old Grandma always said,,,"A man should never raise a hand and strike his wife, and a wife should never try to stand up to a man like a man, or accept what a man gives her"..
     
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    I wish everyone would give women thier rights - seems republicans in America do not even want women in the room - even while discussing issues like maternity care

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39375228
     
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    These rich old farts have a habit of buying their Stepford wives....
     
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    I do not think I would encourage anyone to do anything but make their own decisions when it comes to how they live. There are advantages for a man to adopt this philosophy. I would say a man should at least understand how he can be affected by hormones and sex drive.
     
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    Mate - I will tell you that I am not prejudiced but my nose definitely IS!! And if he smells half as bad as that picture looks (am betting no soap for at least seven years) then if he comes anywhere near me he WILL be washed!!! Remember one patient that we scrubbed - and then found he had freckles!!
     
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    ok I didn't listen to all of it, just pieces but he's pretty much the male version of women who decide not to have children because it lowers the quality of their lives.

    He quotes "Why have a wife when you can live a life" well it goes both ways, when a women get's married and have children it pretty much reduces her career and travel opportunities unless she leaves the raising of her children to others.

    It all boils down to choice and so not condemning him or women like him.
     
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    I heard an ER nurse once say they tried to remove a homeless man's socks but then realized he wasn't wearing any.....
     
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    Very true and exactly why I do not encourage too much the choices others make. They are the ones that have to live with their decisions. For me it is about finding a balance.
     
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    Been there - done that

    Shaving cream - would you believe it but it is THE BEST for destinking feet
     
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    The meaning of life, as far as evolution goes, is quite literally to become a parent and I therefore see MGTOW and radical "Independent Womyn"-Feminism as two highly hostile sides of the same disgusting coin.

    I spare zero respect for the whole "Le Manosphère"-movement and consider them to be nothing but sexually frustrated men,amongst whom some are just genuine misogynists (...and some, I assume, are good people lol).

    Nonetheless, MGTOW is a laughable phenomenon and I have no idea why ut has caught such massive support lately.
     
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    OK, so here follows a summary of what I got from listening to what was being said in that video;

    1. MGTOW is an Internet-based movement that are not really taking any real initiative to make actual change towards the way they want society to go. In other words, they are basement-dwelling forum trolls.

    2. MGTOW wishes to see a society where all interaction between men and women is ceased. In other words, they are (hu)man-hating whackos.

    3. The spokesman seems totally brainwashed and crazy, MGTOW is a cult.

    4. MGTOW cries about "media stereotyping" and about structures taking away men's agency. In other words, MGTOW is contemporary Feminism in reverse.

    5. MGTOW is for lonely and insecure men; the spokesperson got really nervous and started laughing and mumbling aimlessly when asked if MGTOW's have sex.
     
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    You could substitute modern feminism everywhere MGTOW is mentioned in your post. The more radical one side gets the more radical the other side gets.

    I do not follow the MGTOW philosophy but I do see them having a purpose. The more people that rejects radical movements like modern feminism the better.
     
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    Exactly what rights do men have which women do not?

    Not having a woman in the room at ANY specific time is not a rights issue
     
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    No one can give anyone any rights, all rights are inherent at birth. This is about abrogating rights, which is of course unconstitutional and has been since the Constitution was ratified (see Bill of Rights, especially the 9th Amendment). And that's the government's agenda. Nearly every law enacted abrogates rights.
     
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    It is when issues like maternal health is concerned - unless of course one of those men have gone through labour themselves

    Now let us reverse this to see how fair this feels

    If this were a group of women discussing male circumcision - would you have an objection?
     
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    I never forget Dustin Hoffman when he played "Tootsie" saying he did not understand what a difference it made if you were not a good looking woman (and let's all admit it Hoffman made a truly ugly woman)

    It is not just in that board room but how many boardrooms across the globe are male dominated?
     
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    I would have no objection and would feel fine IF those women were elected to discuss that issue.

    Having an objection is not the same as arguing that it is a rights issue. It is not an issue of rights in any way shape or form so once again I asked and no one has answered. What rights do men have which women do not.

    You stated everyone needs to give women their rights.

    Specifically WHICH rights?

    Or will you admit the FACT that men and women have all the same rights and in fact women have more rights than men.
     
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    The right to equal pay - and there is research after research stating that women are NOT paid equally

    The right to expect the same treatment in the workplace as a man

    The right to determine what to do with thier own bodies

    The right not to be subject to violence

    And do not forget the internet is part of a GLOBAL network - so this piece of trash could be being viewed in the ME and used as validation to continue the subjugation of women in those societies
     
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    Quite wrong.

    There is NO research showing any such thing. The gender pay gap is a long proven MYTH. It is in fact a gender INCOME gap which is a horse of a different color and it is strictly based on personal choice. In other words men generally tend to work more hours, take more dangerous jobs which pay more, take jobs which require longer times away such as traveling or driving and many other factors. This is what the income gap comes from. When personal choice factors are taken into account the gap falls to 2 cents or less which is within the margin of error.

    The fact is you cannot name one occupation where men and women with the same background, age and experience work side by side at the same job and get paid differently based on gender.

    http://www.aei.org/publication/new-...-2014-explained-by-age-marriage-hours-worked/

    No one has any right to the same treatment period and there is no such measurable difference.

    Women and men both have the same rights to determine what to do with their bodies and the same limitations on those rights such as the laws against ingesting illegal narcotics. In fact in some cases such as abortion women have unique or special rights which do not apply to men.

    No one has the RIGHT not to be subject to violence and men are victims of violence more than women.

    The ME needs no validation for their mistreatment of women they have the Koran and Sharia law.

    So once again your claims are false and you need to answer SPECIFICALLY what right to men have which women do not?
     

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