Mike Pence's new neighbors put up LGBT pride flags in protest

I agree, neither of those things are necessarily "anti gay."

In a different context i would agree with this as well. But we aren't talking about troubled youth we are talking about homosexual youth.

Treating homosexuality like it's "trouble" is absolutely anti-gay.

However all that conversion voodoo should be considered and seen as faith healing. That would make it impossible for the government to involve itself in it.

Being anti-Christian isn't necessarily hateful bigotry. Sometimes it's being pro academic. Some christians have successfully caused public schools not to teach evolution. That is profound stupidity. Some christians wish to withhold liberties through force of the government in order to breed compliance with their religion.

Not agreeing with denial of science and using the government to force compliance isn't hatred or bigotry against Christians any more than disagreeing with forced service of same sex couples is bigotry against homosexuals and transgender people.

I wouldn't think he would either.

 

The exact same post you quoted. Try reading it and see.

 

It'd be quite funny if he'd burn some LGBT flags in response.

 

Hopefully, if or when Pence decides it's time to start rattling his mouth over possibly changing some of the new LGBT laws, Trump will step in to explain to him that he was only chosen to appease the religious right before the election and that he never had any intention of taking Pence's stance on LGBTs seriously, so (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Plenty. I just don't talk politics with them and just nod my head when they go on a rant. After all, I am not going to change their minds so why bother. I would say that there are one or two that can keep their heads and actually debate but that is a minority. Liberals are not very tolerant of differing viewpoints.

When I used to meet people from the board room to the boiler room I always got along fine because I tend to reflect their own self image like a mirror. I don't know why but if I had to go out with customers and they liked to party, they thought I did too. If I had to be with a staid teetotaler, they though I was too.

 

That depends on how you define troubled youth.

Actually its not. Its trying to help these kids who are obviously in need of help. Many are depressed and suicidal.

Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it should be outlawed.

Sorry, no. Its plain bigotry to attack others for not sharing your beliefs on homosexuality.

Yes I've read Inherit the Wind as well.

Actually its the reverse. There are no Christians trying to force Christianity onto private businesses. That would be the LGBT community. They are the ones forcing their will on others.

Actually it is when you only target Christian businesses and not Muslims for example. Let me know when the LGBT community depict Muhammad during Ramadan as they do to Jesus on Easter and then you can speak of the purity of their cause.

 

They definitely get testy when you have a different viewpoint. Of the few times I check my live feed, about once every 2 months, I haven't seen anything anti-Trump so I'm doing good.

Those people you met must have thought you liked to party for the fact that you reflected their image. I know exactly what you mean. I did the same when I was around Sheriffs and Jail Administrators when I was on the road installing and training prisons on how to use our systems. Many I had to take out to dinner or bars.

 

You didn't make it clear which post you quoted but I found this:

More false statements from a predictable source. "What statements were false, and what was the source?

Being against forcing gay marriage on a community through the courts is not anti-gay. Nobody is forcing anybody to enter into a gay marriage, but some are trying awfully hard to make it impossible for a gay couple to get married. That IS anti gay.


Being against LGBT fascists trying to force their psychological state on people through judges is not anti-gay.

Since when is that happening? Is defending gay rights in the courts now "fascist?"

Trying to help troubled teens is not anti gay. No, it isn't, as long as it doesn't include the discredited "conversion therapy." Forcing that on a troubled teen is anti gay.

 

Its hard to take the Left's LGBT hysteria seriously when they don't apply their standards universally.

White Christian Republican expresses an opinion on gays that the Left doesn't agree with and they erupt in outrage.

Muslims actually behead gays and a hush falls over the Huff-N-Think-Regress-Puff crowd.

And that mentality repeats itself in other issues as well.

Example: White cop lawfully shoots a Black criminal and its time to riot for BLM, Blacks slaughter each other in droves on a daily basis and its time to change the subject.

The Left has a serious problem with hypocrisy.

 

Okay

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I said it was the same one you quoted from and since you only quoted from one at that point it was pretty clear.

You just quoted it below

No, its not. Its being against the political positions of the LGBT community. Not anti gay.

Are you kidding? One bakery run out of business, a marriage location also run out of business. A photographer run out of business. All from the facism of the LGBT community. Do you not read any current events?

No its not. And its not forced. Your fabrication of what happens is just sad. The bigotry and hate is coming from you not the Christian community. Unless everyone agrees with your political position you call them anti gay. That is pure bigotry and hate.

 

No it doesn't. Homosexuality has been shown to not be a direct link to any psychological condition. If you have some esoteric definition of troubled youth based on some religous belief or ritual it is your responsibility to make an argument for that.

No it isn't. It's trying to make homosexual youth heterosexual. That exasserbates depression and suicidal thoughts. It isn't therapy, it's faith healing.

I never argued for outlawing voodoo and cult practices.

I agree, but it isn't bigotry to point out things some christians believe that are absolutely proven false.

No idea what you are talking about.

Agreed, however there are christians that try to force compliance to their rituals upon the public.

It is also various religons.

Are you talking about specific events? If so, yes I agree that christian businesses are targeted and attacked by actors in the media. That is absolutely bigotry. However that is not what i was talking about. I said nothing even close to that.

I never speak of purity unless we are talking about the composition of metal.

 

I would think people starving in the streets, no jobs, horrible GDP, terror attacks, raising Mexico's kids and future felons, and vet's dying trying to get care has him a little more concerned than bathroom justice and rainbow flags.

 

Excellent point.

So why did Pence spend so much time and political capital relegated gays to lower class citizens?

 

it's their own property, they can do what they want, plus they are rich so they could really care less what any of us think

 

I wonder how far away his neighbors are? 1/4 mile? Wow they sure showed him boy.

 

Would you like to add some more items to your shopping list of identifiers? How about .... 'regardless of shoe size, arm length, and Friday night pizza"?

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Only they are allowed to protest .. because reasons

 

Absolutely agree.

I think the reason why this is in the news is because they want to provoke Pence and by extention any others they feel side with him. I'd dismiss it.

 

Will it stop at flags in their yards? Or will it come to his yard or front door?

If I was Pence is invite them all to dinner at my house one night.

 

Why are you talking about the poster and not the post?

Frankly, you have no way of knowing anything about anyone else and so your opinions are of zero importance to anyone but you.

One of the reasons the "alt right" is seen as shallow and stupid is reflected in that post which ignores the topic completely and takes on the individual....Trump tactics. No matter what anyone says, attack the speaker on a personal level.

Further, as biased as you are such attacks are really a waste of bandwidth.

 

In other news Mike Pence said he doesn't like oatmeal, which led to demonstrators in Quaker garb eating oatmeal on his lawn.

 

Many Christians disagree with homosexuality. There is no 'hate' involved, it's simple disagreement. Very boring, garden-variety, dismissive dislike/disinterest. The progressive WANTS it to be hate, needs it to be hate, because accepting that it's mere disagreement isn't dramatic enough. Rainbow people and their 'allies' need to feel far more important than that.

Progs are like bored children, needing everything to be hysterical, all the time.

 

Are you talking about when he was governor?

There are people who are of the opinion that homosexuality is a mental illness, maybe Pence is one of those. Admittedly, I don't know a lot about Pence.

He may think that he's trying to help them. Pence doesn't seem like the kind of guy to waterboard the gay out of someone or whatever.

 

And there you are talking about a poster. Hypocrisy much?

 

Well said. That's kind of what I was trying to get across in my post but you did it better.

Pence's behavior leads me to believe he does it because he cares about them. I don't know if that's valid or not and certainly up for debate, but I don't think his actions are based on hate, fear, or loathing.