Mike Pence's new neighbors put up LGBT pride flags in protest

I know a few Trump supporters (remotely, we're not Americans), but they're horribly disrespected by leftists.

Story time .... recently I mentioned to a rabid Progressive friend that one of my kids is non-partisan, with a preference for healthy capitalism. Her response: "OMG .... Oh NO! .. omg omg .... " tsk tsking "how does that make you FEEL?". My response upset her, I think, far more than the traumatic realisation that someone she knows is related to someone who isn't hard left. This is what I said to her: "I FEEL proud. Proud that I didn't indoctrinate my kids. Proud that I was able to teach them to apply critical thought to everything, and take nothing at face value. But most of all I feel proud of him for being his own man". We haven't seen much of each other lately

 

That's a disingenuous response. I'm referring to the nonstop nastiness from the right, such as what you've just shown. Your side has been even more vicious than ever since the election. The vast majority of lefties did not go out and smash windows, but you and your buddies try dishonestly to delegitimize all lefties and our justified concerns and anger because of the actions of a few. And you are delighted that a dishonest, unethical, misogynistic bully is about to,lead this country. God help America.

 

politicising sex was one of the greatest blunders of western humanity. to me, there is no clearer sign that we've had it too easy, for too long.

 

No. There are plenty of leftists out there who are equally 'delighted' by this turn of events ... myself included. We're not delighted by Trump, at ALL. We're delighted to see the hubris of the modern left take one square in the pants. If we're incredibly arrogant and stupid, we'll learn nothing from this. I like to believe we're not (though our recent behaviour pre and post US election would have it otherwise), and so we should benefit from this leveller. I hope, really really hope, we can return to practical socialism .. and leave identity politics and emotions ideologies in the dirt where they belong.

 

Political correctness requires politicizing every thing in life from sex, speech, toilets and light bulbs.

 

That is an unsupported claim. Further I do not believe it. So the burden of proof for said claim is on you.

Your burden is to prove that the "condition" causes distress. Otherwise it is am argument of nature verses nurture. Neither one has been proven right or wrong so it's purely speculative.

It doesn't do anything, it's pretend.

I don't, but neither do you or any of the practitioners. Treating people without knowing if what you're treating is a treatable condition is unethical. Helping them cope is not.

Statistics.

Why did you cry to new about outlawing them than?

Well it's christian groups that practice this ritual so the my targeting of them is appropriate. And I have evidence. Overwhelming testimony to that end.

We aren't talking about a delusion. Anybody holds the capacity to be homosexual, nobody holds the capacity to be King George.

Let's keep it on subject.

That evolution is a myth.

Huh, never heard of it. I think you misunderstand. I want talking about banning the teaching of evolution. It's teaching creation as though it's a theory equal to evolution, or that it's even a theory at all. It's iron age folklore.

Laws against "sodomy." The attempt to define marriage. Laws against homosexuality. Laws combating public accommodations for homosexual couples.

Christianity

No it isn't.

Violates the concept of a free market and I absolutely DO NOT support it. I don't give half a (*)(*)(*)(*) about what ever stupid reason people concoct. Reasons are unimportant.

Well, it is anti Christian. Many Christians are Anti LGBT. One doesn't justify the other.

Sorry, you didn't make that point. Your point was that their motives aren't pure.

But to address your caterwalling about bigotry, yes there are people who ate bigoted against Christianity, more than just people within the LGBT groups. Does it make you feel better that I acknowledge bigotry? Does that validate you?

Yes people hate christians, I don't understand why, but than again I don't understand hating anybody based on one aspect of their person.

I also don't really care much about it. As long as it isn't institutionalized it's just people hating people because they don't like what they do. I don't care.

 

Rude and aggressive? Who cares? It's just words. You don't have to enguage in discussion with them.

 

Political correctness is nothing new

 

How quickly the hopeless forget. It is like selective amnesia.



I know. If they are leftists assaulting people, destroying property, throwing rocks at horses etc. it somehow doesn't count.

Spare us your childishly-absurd sanctimonious self-righteousness. Leftists are violent thugs. That fact is well documented.

 

It's been around since the early 1920's. It's a Marxist thing.

Not adopted by the American left until the early 1960's.

It became the bible of the "New Left" in the early 1970's.

 

Yeah? What did I say that was nasty? Go ahead and point to it for me.

A few? There are THOUSANDS of them in the streets rioting. They shut down the Chicago rally, they're all over the internet, the "media" is literally crying on TV over the election, they are all over social media threatening to kill people, they're draggin people out of cars, attacking people at rallys prior to the election.

Please show me the right doing a HUNDREDTH of this in comparison.

People like you call Trump a misogynist, then ignore the fact that he chose his daughter to run his companies, his campaign manager is a woman, and he put more women CEO's into their position in an industry where it was unheard of than anywhere else.

People like you call Trump a racist, but more minorities support him than any previous republican.

People like you call Trump dishonest and unethical, but you voted for the biggest bought-and-paid-for criminal politician in history.

Please, continue the hypocrisy so we can all have another good laugh at the progressive left.

 

Its about to be in the past though.

 

I see people on both sides of the spectrum using it in various forms.

As someone who staunchly supports free speech, this should never be political.

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One would hope.

 

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As an aside, please figure out how to post.

Yeah some Trump supporters didn't curl up in a ball and cry when they were subjected to the DNC funded, Bill Ayers supported domestic terrorism.

When women let you touch them, it's not assault.

The Mexicans controlling illegal immigration into this country are rapists. That is well documented.

Keep making stuff up, I don't even care anymore.

Your party is now irrelevant, time to focus on undoing the damage your people have done to this country.

 

The Trump administration will effectively ignore these silly social issues for what they are. The government has more important things to take care of than worrying about flying rainbow flags or which letter is being added to LGBTXYZ.

Yup. Exactly right.

The safety-pin wearing crowd cares. Everyone else understands that rainbow flags are to be ignored.

Yes. What's truly sad is that in some places in the country today, more support is given to those wishing to fly their rainbow flag than those wishing to fly the red, white and blue. In those areas, don't provoke their violent tendencies by voicing contrary opinions, as clearly that would show you to be a racist / sexist / homophobist / whateverist.

Exactly. I don't care if someone prefers sticking whatever into whatever, I certainly don't care what multi-colored flag one chooses to wave around. There are too many legitimate problems to worry about.

Agreed.

The left seems to consider anything that happened over a week ago to be ancient history, and they all agree that we need not worry about ancient history.

 

I wish to God otherwise intelligent people would refrain from propagating this insane myth.

He could do plenty about it, though doing the right thing might get him impeached; but of course it's irrelevant in his case anyway, since he has already slurped up the "gay marriage" koolaid.

 

As for Pence, I think he oughta get himself a rainbow flag and burn the sonofa(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) on his front lawn.

 

A constitutional amendment is improbable and a plaintiff would have to show harm of same sex unions (no public accommodation laws) to get a case back to SCOTUS. Being as how no one has yet to prove injury, that is wishful thinking at best.

Do tell, how do we go about removing same sex marriage and voiding over 1 million unions?
The only legislation I could even potentially see will be to allow people with "strongly held beliefs (about homosexuality)" to be allowed to deny service and to open up employment and housing discrimination laws. Both will be fought and eventually struck down so even that will be a 4 to 8 year victory.

I wish someone would that public accommodation laws to SCOTUS using the XIII Amendment as legal reasoning so this mess would just end.


Why can't we focus on the important things; government corruption, embezzlement of taxpayer funds, sanctuary cities, border security and immigration, lowering the national debt, missing military budgets, fixing our crumbling infrastructure, improving our failing education system, simplifying our tax code, removing tax loopholes, removing unconstitutional gun laws or the economy?
Why are gay rights even an issue compared to any of the above?!?

 

Perhaps we should strive for gems like these:

 

It's settled law, it will not change under President Trump so you might as well get used to it.

God gave us free will and we choose to live in a secular society. Our laws are not determined by anyone's religion. In a secular society some laws are naturally going to butt heads with religions views. Just because the government recognizes something doesn't mean God does. If God can give man free, surely we have to do the same. That free will means they get the choice to do as they please as long as it doesn't hurt another. Does gay marriage hurt anyone?

 

Sounds like a fair use of free speech. On both sides.

 

I wouldn't mind rounding up a few like minded Christians and head to Chevy chase and burn a whole bunch of rainbow flags in protest of the protesters .

 

Believing marriage should be limited to one man and one woman is not "hateful".

 

Agree, it is however merely an opinion and not basis for legal arguments.
It becomes hateful when you start trying to force this opinion on the lives of others.