Mike Pence's new neighbors put up LGBT pride flags in protest

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Think for myself, Dec 1, 2016.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which of course is exactly what the gay movement did, force their opinion on the lives of others.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    will they shriek MARVELOUS when the flag is raised? :roflol:
     
  3. cd8ed

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    I agree that public accommodation laws are unconstitutional, but I doubt that's what your implication was.
    What did gay people force on others? Before you say marriage - did interracial couples force their views on others when they demanded equal rights?

    Not one single person has been harmed without independent action because of the advance of gay rights.

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    I agree that public accommodation laws are unconstitutional, but I doubt that's what your implication was.
    What did gay people force on others? Before you say marriage - did interracial couples force their views on others when they demanded equal rights?

    Not one single person has been harmed without independent action because of the advance of gay rights.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't know Gay was a race. Go figure.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Considering Trump's Supreme Court short list, I'd think gays wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves. Then again, I can't remember the last time the gays missed an opportunity to whine...
     
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    Gender--------------------hardly---------------it really seems to be a birth defect.
     
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    Its as much of a race as it is genetic.

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    LOL Neither is your position.

    You have nothing to back up your desire other than your opinion as well. Heterosexual marriage has thousands of years of history and a solid biological genetic connection you can only dream about.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Because you dont have the votes to do it. That's why you bypassed that process and went for the judges. The amendment process was good enough to free the slaves and give women the right to vote but the LGBT community knows they can't win with the amendment process because not enough people agree with them.
     
  9. cd8ed

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    I never said it was. Strawman.
    If you can muster up the courage, feel free to answer the question.
     
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    Reading comprehension my friend, by a constitutional amendment I am talking about one of the possible ways to push back on gay rights. You also lack the votes but I disagree that a constitutional amendment is necessary as gay people are covered under the XIV.

    So back to the original question which you skipped to respond to 4 words, how do you feel the "tide" of gay rights can be reversed and them shoved back in the closet?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats amazing, when did science prove the cause of orientation? I would love to read your source.

    Incorrect, numerous constitutional scholars, the vast majority of local appellate and federal courts as well as the Suprem Court of the United States agree it was a valid legal argument.

    My opinion is that homosexuals are as deserving as their reigns and freedoms as any other American citizen. The court agrees.

    I do not care about your appeals to tradition nor do I care about your ability to have accidental offspring. Science is within a decade of a child having the genetic characteristics of a same sex couple so your last argument is false.
     
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    More to the point, it's unnecessary.

    You might as well ask how to go about voiding a $1 million in counterfeit money.

    Given that it's based on a brazenly fraudulent court ruling, the constitutionally literate among us can hardly help but wonder how the term can be said to have any value.

    Dunno where you get that idea, but it sure as hell isn't from the Constitution.

    Obviously not, since such is not in the power of anyone but God to grant.

    Given that there is no such thing and never will be, the question is ill posed. If you mean to ask what harm is done by the societal pretense that people of the same sex can marry, it harms those who imagine them to be in such "marriages", it harms the children who are reared under their auspices, and it harms everyone else by implicitly derogating the very idea of marriage.
     
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    No one cares
     
  14. cd8ed

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    Ok, then how do you propose it gets repealed? Wishful thinking?

    Not in the slightest

    What about the people that don't believe in God - are you voiding their marriages as well? How about adulterers? You people are pushing for religious law blindly. Islam thanks you - do you think you will be in power forever? Take that (*)(*)(*)(*) to Iran - it isn't welcome here.

    absolutely zero of these are legal arguments founded on anything but extreamist religious ideology. You sticking your fingers in your ears with your eyes clenched and crying there is no such thing as same sex couples marrying does not make it less so

    22: The number of countries that have same sex marriage
    3: The number of countries that will legalize same sex marriage in 2017
    0: The number of countries have repealed same sex marriage after allowing it

    It's over bro :hug:
     
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    It doesn't need to be repealed, just ignored by everyone under a constitutional oath.

    Their free will, if it's not illusory, comes from God as well. You're welcome.

    :yawn:
     
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    :bored: who cares
     
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    Where did I even use the word hypocrisy?

    But thank, as you proved this: "shallow and stupid is reflected in that post which ignores the topic completely..."

    It appears Trumpbots can only attack the individual and not the idea. Try dealing with a defense of "shallow and stupid"....I have a few thousand examples
     
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    He didn't say it was
     
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    A Supreme Court ruling being ignored by "anyone under a constitutional oath", I'm sure the hypocrisy of that statement flew right over your head.

    That you admit there is no legal way to repeal it means you are at least moving in the direction of facts.

    Taking credit for the actions of god. Wonder how that's viewed? Oh, you must choose to ignore those sections - carry on

    Yeh, I agree it's hypocritical to the point of being sad
     
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    An understandable misperception, given that you understand nothing of the Constitution.

    Doesn't matter.

    No need for me to move there, since I've been there from the beginning.

    Do feel free to consider yourself dismissed.
     
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    Not very nice or neighborly. They must not be nice people. In a neighborhood I lived in, a lesbian couple moved in. How rude and spiteful and self righteous it would be to plaster signs on our lawns targeting our new neighbors with the message that we valued traditional marriage.
     
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    If so many people are going to ignore the ruling, why don't they just pass an amendment - it's because the Republican Party is evenly split on the issue, you don't even have the numbers within your own party.

    I agree.
    "It's settled law"

    Doesn't seem that way

    Wut? I'm sure god is understanding of you accepting praise on his behalf.
     
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    Reading comprehension indeed. The amount of states you would need to get an amendment passed in either way makes it impossible.

    How? Be specific. What specific wording in that amendment covers gay marriage? Let's see it.

    Please do not fabricate words I never stated. I never said the tide of the LGBT community should be reversed. Merely left to the states to vote open as it has no basis in race or sex.

    Do try and read what I actually type next time.
     
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    The act of heterosexual sex proves heterosexuality is genetic. Unless you can find a class the first humans and thousands of other species took to figure it out. Its amazing that has to be explained to you.

    Based on their bias. They never once could point to a single study to prove it.

    You mean the judges who agree with your politics agree with you. Answer me this if you can. Why is homosexuality singled out for these new "rights" over all other sexual preferences? What makes it special? Can you even answer the question? Why isn't every sexual preference deserving of these new "rights" you speak of?

    I would say that too if I had no science to support my position.

    lol You are only proving my point. Just because science found a way to genetically modify a baby doesn't prove homomsexuality is genetic or boilogically natural. You have no scientific basis for it and you never will no matter how many judges agree with you politically.
     
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    By that, you mean they 'lost the election', and won over two million more votes than their competitor. Our system has always had a bias towards rural areas; you don't say that a soccer team 'won a match' when the referee was blatantly in their favor.
     

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