~ MOD ALERT ~ Iran's response to Israel's latest threats

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  1. DrewBedson

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    Actually it's not fine. I told you my name is Drew Bedson and you may call me Drew if you are familiar with me but calling a person by their last name is rude.

    Not the misspelling which, could be a genuine mistake but rather the use of the last name rather than first or complete. If you are a rude SOB I'd rather just ignore your silly mistaken garbage like posts and mock somebody more challenging. I offered you an opportunity to correct your small error by explaining what was wrong (Name is Drew Bedson or, if you are being friendly and familiar - Drew, not Bedson misspelled as "Benson.') and you chose to ignore me and continue on.

    So, if you wish to continue on, I'm more than willing to do so providing you show some manners and address me respectfully, I don't even want an apology, just the respect that one human deserves from another by addressing me properly.
     
  2. Dusty1000

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    The UNSC is not ''the world.'' Those resolutions concern Iran's right to enrich uranium, which like I said, the majority of countries represented by the non-aligned movement, continue to affirm

    No, you missed my point. It is impossible to verify that a country is not doing something, or does not have something, because of the difficulties associated with proving a negative.

    Iran has not ''alluded'' that Iran should destroy Israel. Although Iran has certainly said, repeatedly, that ''the solution is democracy.'' If everyone who lived under Israeli control was able to vote for the government that ultimately rules them, Israel would effectively be ''destroyed.''

    Try addressing what I do say, rather than what I don't say.

    Israel has certainly ''alluded'' to attacking Iran.

    Not in the least bit like Israel.

    The PA and Hamas are not nations. Furthermore, both of their policies are closer to international consensus than is Israel's policies. The PA recognised Israel a long time ago, and Hamas has repeatedly proposed a long-term truce based on Israel's internationally recognised and legal borders. Whereas Israel has demonstrated no intention of moving back to it's borders, or of recognising Palestine.

    If the goal of other nations since 1948 is to destroy Israel, then why have they only ever attacked Israel in self-defence, I.E. after Israel attacked them?
     
  3. AmericanNationalist

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    Okay, Sir Drew, I'm not repeating my post for a third time with all due respect. I'll make it short:

    India's neutral
    Pakistan unfortunately is protected by a blanket cover called China.

    Israel on the other hand, has no such international pressure, nor does it face any threats given the U.S is the biggest security blanket one can afford a State.
    Yet Israel is intentionally vague about its weapons's program, it defies the U.N(Including the controversial 1967 Mandate that the President even outlines his solution based on). Why do you accept this blatant hypocrisy?
     
  4. free man

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    Iran is built on lies to the world.
    They signed the NPT.
    Iran commited not to enrich uranium and in return to gain nuclear help.
    They got the help and rushed to develop their nuclear capabilities.
    They exact ones they commited not to develop in exchange for the know-how.

    Now stupid people believe Iran president who was the guy directly responsible for the lies.
     
  5. Margot2

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    Iran needs nuclear power.. and they don't want to be bombed like the Israelis bombed Syria and Iraq.
     
  6. Dusty1000

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    And, what inspections are you referring to?

    The IAEA has inspected all of Iran's nuclear facilities, and has not been prevented from inspecting anything that Iran is obliged by it's agreements to let IAEA inspectors inspect.

    In any case, Iran's nuclear facilities are constantly monitored by IAEA cameras.
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    Why don't we actually read the Non-Proliferation Treaty? The key to any debate is to know what we're debating.

    http://www.un.org/en/conf/npt/2005/npttreaty.html

    The actual treaty itself says nothing about 'enriching uranium', this is the paragraph in question:

    The key here is 'fissionable material' So, how does one make Uranium a 'fissionable material' for a bomb?

    http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Nuclear-Fuel-Cycle/Introduction/What-is-Uranium--How-Does-it-Work-/#.UkwUrYakySo

    Specifically, only a 90% enrichment seems to be capable of achieving the deed. And yet there Iran is at 20%. Sure, Iran *could* enrich further, but it hasn't nor has it given any indication that it will.

    And as a signatory to the IAEA, it's energy is tightly regulated. The Iranian "nuclear threat" is non existent. http://www.david-morrison.org.uk/iran/iran-no-nuclear-programme.htm

    Netanyahu is a war monger, a religious fanatic(the state itself is based on religious dogma and not historical fact) and is a current threat to World Peace everywhere. For as long as he and his virulent Zionists are at large, and as long as the Jewish People believe that it's "who they are" and not their despicable INTL. Actions that govern mistrust and ill will, then that nation will never find peace.

    Which is fine with me, if that's how they want to live their lives. But it's not how the American Empire wants to live its life, we're a non-secular state. We'll continue to live that way and our foreign policy dictates this fate.
     
  8. Gilos

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    You mean new facitiles and not under the agreement ?
     
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    Abu Adolf mazen's nature is "to lie"
    So did Arrafat the Kalb.
     
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    What are you talking about...?
     
  11. Dusty1000

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    All of Iran's nuclear facilities are under the agreement.
     
  12. Gilos

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    Then the word in the UN is they didnt disclose everything...
     
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    What do you think they did not disclose?
     
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    Serious people do not answer the rants of morons , possibly the only ones buying into Netayahoo 's lies are the Saudis .
     
  15. Gilos

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    The 2 new facilities that were discovered by sattelite and only then Iran admit they exist..., and if I remeber correctly Amano said they are hiding suspected parts in purchin (or whatever that place is called) before the inspectors came, in short its obvious to any person they want to build a nuke, Im sure you agree they should but try to pose a legal def for them IMO.
     
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    Presumably, this is what they're referring to. http://www.isisnucleariran.org/assets/pdf/Official_Comments_Qom_Disclosure.pdf

    And yet, this Qom site is according to their own record, incapable of producing the capabilities for a nuclear weapon. Yet, it agitates them to potentially use nuclear power for military purposes? This, in comparison to how many states use Nuclear fuel for energy?

    Hypocrisy, much? If this is what we have to "fear" from Iran, then I fear nothing.
     
  17. Dusty1000

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    Iran has never denied the existence of any of it's nuclear facilities. Under the agreement, Iran is obliged to inform the IAEA of any new facilities, a certain amount of time before introducing uranium into any such facilities, and it has complied fully with this agreement.

    Parchin is a military, not a nuclear facility. Nor is there any suspicion of it being one.
     
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    And as we might expect, the document contains falsehoods.

     
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    Do you mean that you still believe he MYTH that the israeli's did'

    Oy Vey.

    I think we need to debate that.
     
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    If I was Iran, I would unceasingly attack Israel's duplicitous record on nuclear weapons. Why have the Israelis never officially admitted having nuclear weapons (despite being signators of the NPT) and why has Dimona and other secondary sites never been inspected for nuclear weapons? Iran can point out that given this history of lying, it has no rational reason to trust Israeli intentions now with respect to the issue of WMDs.
     
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    Are the Neo Nazis colonizing someone else's land?
     
  22. Gilos

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    Then why did the inspectors check it?
     
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    Who fed you that crock?

    Reference to the trash source please.
     
  24. Dusty1000

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    Because it had been alleged that Parchin had been used for tests related to the development of nuclear weapons.

    But as we would expect, the inspectors found no evidence to substantiate the allegations.
     
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    Nicely done, Dusty.
    Keep on exposing thelame-brain falsehoods. They seem to think, erroneously of course, that Iran is supposed to report as though it were under the Special Protocol.
     

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