~ MOD ALERT ~ Iran's response to Israel's latest threats

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    You expected Israel to declare a state for the Palestinians? they had a chance before and after 1948 to do it.
     
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    You mean after the Israelis destroyed over 400 Arab villages?
     
  3. Gilos

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    http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-iaea-nuclear-talks-amano/25005401.html

    You know you wont convince me in a lie and I know YOU know they are after a nuke so can we please stop this stupid game ?
     
  4. Gilos

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    No, I mean way before but also after, 400 is probebly the entire village count in the land, since we have so many left today I dont think that number is real.
     
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    Atoms for Peace.

    http://www.cfr.org/iran/irans-nuclear-program/p16811

    Iran's leaders have worked to pursue nuclear energy technology since the 1950s, spurred by the launch of U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower's Atoms for Peace program. It made steady progress, with Western help, through the early 1970s. But concern over Iranian intentions followed by the upheaval of the Islamic Revolution in 1979 effectively ended outside assistance. Iran was known to be reviving its civilian nuclear programs during the 1990s, but revelations in 2002 and 2003 of clandestine research into fuel enrichment and conversion raised international concern that Iran's ambitions had metastasized beyond peaceful intent.

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    Sure its real.. The list is on line...

    The Israelis looted the villages and then destroyed them..
     
  6. Dusty1000

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    What are you claiming is a lie?

    I know that you know there is not one shred of substantiated evidence that suggests Iran is ''after a nuke.''

    It's your hasbara that's the stupid game. No matter how hard you try, facts aren't things that you can just make up.
     
  7. Gilos

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    Look, like I said in another post, you dont need to convince Israel or try even, its IAEA and security council, Iran is hiding and evading as the IAEA keeps reporting "no advancment with Iran concerning the inspections, so all is not well and the UN is the last organization that does Israel will, so you pinning this on Israel is very short sighted and sins to the truth.

    And to say its an IAEA effort is not "hasbara" its a fact as the sun in the sky.
     
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  9. Gilos

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    Wasnt Iran offered Uranium enreachment in Russia for all kinds of benefits, before the sanctions ? didnt Iran went along defying that none the less ? didnt it what brought sanctions on Iran ? then why go throu all this for the principle ? and if they insist ever still why not letting the Inspectors free accses ?, if that was done by another state no one would have any questions, just like the Chem attack in Syria, the only reasons some ppl have to deny these facts are because Iran and Syria oppsoe the West that so many here like to hate.


    As for the list, the "testemony" of the psych doc is also online, so are many many things.
     
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    If they claim something happened it happened. If they claim something did not happen it did not happen.

    Not matter what.

    It can't be coincidence, when it is over and over, from Bibi to the 'ordinary' one's.

    Can it?
     
  11. Gilos

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    Because youi have to stupid to think otherwise and Dusty is not stupid.


    Israel proved to contain its Nukes even at great risk of destruction (1973), it is surrounded by enemies that greatly outnumber it. Nukes were invented to keep states like Israel safe and frankly I cant think of a state that is more justified than Israel to own such a weapon.
     
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    Translation.

    Blind belief of the word of Jews is a must, else you are 'stupid'.

    Okay then.
     
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    You just describes every person on the planet that has an opinion.
     
  14. Gilos

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    Should have said "Naive" then..

    But I dont think he- or you, are naive,

    If you can come up with a reasonable excuse - without throwing the ball to other topics - to why does Iran evades the Inspectors, I'd like to hear it.
     
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    Do you seriously think I believe that Netanyahu is telling the truth when he claims that he thinks Iran is ''after'' nuclear weapons?

    Liars already know when they are telling lies. You don't ''convince'' liars, you expose them.

    Of course there is ''no advancement'' WRT any aspect of the existence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program, because there is no evidence that one does actually exist. Despite Israel having claimed for over two decades that Iran is ''close'' to having a nuclear weapon, not a shred of substantiated evidence exists to support their allegations.

    The IAEA answers to the UNSC, and the country with the most influence in the UNSC, is the US. And the country that more influence than any other over the US, is of course, Israel. Follow the money. The US funds the UN to a greater degree than any other country, and also gives more money to Israel than to any other country.

    Iran is under no obligation to allow IAEA inspectors inspect any facility that is not a nuclear facility, even though they have done so in the past. Particularly as the US subsequently admitted that it planted spies in the UN teams that inspected military facilities in Iraq, it really shouldn't be hard to figure out why Iran is particularly reluctant to give unfettered access to their own military facilities to any UN teams.

    Every country has something to hide. Military facilities are normally off-limits to the majority of citizens in any given country, never mind potential spies from potential enemy countries that have histories of aggression. Iran has watched Israel attack numerous countries, it has seen the US and UK invade neighbouring Iraq under spurious allegations of WMDs, and has even seen the US and UK overthrow their own democratically elected prime minister, and install a brutal dictator, all because of Iranian oil.

    So when Iran's leaders say they are skeptical of their underlying intentions, it's not hard to see why.
     
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    What you mean Jordan? Israel? West Bank?

    Come now stop beating around the bush. You want all 3 merged into one Muslim caliphate do you not?

    Or am I to believe you support the right of Israel to be a Jewish state?

    Lol.

    That's fine I know your answer.
     
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    I think another Caliphate is a terrible and stupid idea.

    The West bank should be a Palestinian State.
     
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    I love the revisionist attempts to apologize for Iran's previous statements about Israel saying they only called for the destruction of Zionism. First off they called for the destruction of both the US and Zionism which as another word for Israel. To pretend Zionism does not refer to Israel is a joke.

    Now you want to play semantics and pretend Zionism is not a code word for Israel go ahead.

    Now play with these words and tell me they mean something else because Ahmadinejad stated them after calling for the destruction of the US and Zionism aka Israel:


    "Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."


    He also stated that Zionists are:

    "the most detested people in all humanity" .

    He had this to say about the holocaust:

    he first called it "a myth," then went on to state it was a false invention used to extort sympathy for Israel from European governments.

    These words are clear with their intent:

    "The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumor. Even if the Zionists remain on one span (more like inch) of the Land of Palestine is dangerous, because they will come to have a legal and official government."

    "A new Middle East will definitely take shape, but with the grace of God and the help of the nations in this new Middle East, there will be no American or Zionist presence in it."




    "The Zionist regime is both the symbol of the hegemony of the Zionism over the world and the means in the hand of the oppressor powers for expansion of their hegemony in the region and in the world….The Zionist that has resorting to lies and phony promises attracted a group into their lands from around the world in order to expand their hegemony over the regional nations taking advantage of their presence are now mistreating them…Zionism is the modern times plight of the human society and when we meet the European politicians they say speak transparently about everything, but they refrain from talking about the Zionist regime, which proves that Israel is the axis of unity of the world hegemonic powers."


    "Israel is nothing more than a mosquito which cannot see the broad horizon of the Iranian nation."


    "Zionists, who have no faith in religion or even God, now claim piety and intend to take away the Islamic identity of the Holy Quds. This ridiculous move is in fact the continuation of the colonialist polices of oppressors, which will not save the Zionist regime, but also take the regime closer to the endpoint of its existence."


    It is clear Iran's leader was talking not just about Israel but anyone who believes it has the right to exist. To pretend he did not refer to Israel only Zionists is ridiculous. His own words
    makes it clear they are all one and the same enemy.

    The attempt to try deny what Iran is on public record as saying is absurd.

    Only on this planet can someone call for a nation to be wiped off the earth and the leader of the nation told it will be wiped out is called the war monger because its leader says-no we will not sit idly by.

    Only on this forum do we have apologists so bias in their views they would try spin what Iran said and then accuse Israel of being a war monger because it won't say thank you please wipe us out, refer to us as evil vermin. That's fine thank you.

    For those of you on this forum using this thread as a pretext to hate Jews using Israel as the vehicle and laughing behind Iran's statement-the message from Netanyahu is clear and its not his-it is the message from all Jews who say-never again. He does not speak for himself. In that regard he has a moral responsibility to speak to all Jews cursed by such people.

    And no, never again will we sit idly by as some lunatic threatens to wipe us out.
     
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    No. You didn't read my post properly. Or you did, but decided to respond to something of your own choosing. That is called a Strawman.

    Instead, I asked Drew if he thought that the Israelis had complied with the implementation of the "181" recommendation.

    Do you, Gilos?
     
  20. Jack Napier

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    Huh?

    Look, I don't go around like a demented lunatic, making allegations that my neighbour is building a bomb and wants to blow me up.

    That's what the deluded do.

    That's what your 'country' does.

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    Examples of this 'evasion'?

    Then tell me why Israel avoids AND evades inspection?
     
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    Comedy gold.

    :smile:
     
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    When was the last time Israel cooperated with inspections of their "hidden facilities" in Dimona? What a slimy pack of hypocrites!!

    If we are to "judge according to their actions" regarding Israel and Iran:

    ...we have one country who has attacked and occupied every one of its neighbors for half a century

    ....and another country who hasn't attacked, invaded or occupied anyone in centuries except to defend its borders against Iraqi aggression in the '80s.
     
  23. Jazz

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    Sure, give it to dem "chosen ones"! But I take issue with your "friendship" with Japan. Aren't you a bit off the track of facts?
    Who instigated Pearl Harbor?
    Who put the American Japs in KZs?
    And who threw two atomic bombs on their heads?


    A friendship betrayed, I'd say! If you Americans are now kosying up to them, it would only be for strategic reasons. The US does nothing out of love, except for Israel! Oops... not quite true, I forgot the infestation by the 2%. O.k., not love, but coercion then and powerful at that. AIPAC - ADL - The FED and hundreds more >>>

    All4Israel
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    Is it really only 2%?
    Worldwide 13,746,100
    Total world population approx. 7 000 000 000
    Yet, they control the world! Almost!
     
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    The jews control the world because of the ancient gifts given to the "chosen ones" by "the big guy in the sky".

    Mind Control over the stupid goys enables them to rob the goys blind, then use those stolen riches to bribe those same goys to do their bidding. (or so the goys think, because the jews are too smart to actually let the goys know that they can control their minds and make them dance like the puppets they were actually created to be.)

    I'm sure our resident jew haters and global jewish conspiracy nutters already know this deep dark secret.
    I know this because "brother nathanael" told me.
     
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    What you are seeing in America and Europe today are Weimar conditions. In all things. And with Weimar conditions so too will it eventually follow that you have solutions to those conditions.
     

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