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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has management training in a university. Trump has long been a prominent and famous businessman. If anybody can run for president, and Obama proved just anybody can win, is this a block to Trump?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is truly a marvel and a wonder when one runs into a true Obama worshiper.

    They typically are coupled with a hate for Donald Trump whom just got started on the job. Funny innit?
     
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    Trying to solve racism with more racism is ridiculous.

    https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=43448

    ...and many times it was not about "not hiring blacks" it was about hiringvthe qualified person.
     
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    Good. We have seen that politicians make things worse. Time for something different.
     
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    USA meant to be a "white country"

    And

    Blacks can move back to Africa

    ...just... wow!

    :lol:
     
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    Apparently you didn't understand my post. I was simply stating that there is always a (majority) ethnic group that gets some preference in ANY society. In America, it has traditionally been whites — and it is understandable, since they founded the country. In Africa, it is blacks. In Japan, it is the Japanese. In China, it is the Chinese.

    And if anyone (from a smaller racial group) is seeking special treatment (preferential treatment), they would be most likely to find it in a country in which the majority of the population is made up of their own racial group. No other country is likely to modify it's historical attitudes to give preferences to a smaller group.

    I hope this helps you grasp the idea.

    Thanks for playing.
     
  7. Egalitarianjay02

    Egalitarianjay02 Banned

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    Running a country is not the same as running a business. Trump was a corrupt businessman as it is. Trump is the one who proved that just about anyone can win. Obama is like a modern day Kennedy who so happened to make history because of his ancestry. Trump isn't qualified for any political office.

    You shouldn't be so surprised that Obama has hardcore supporters like me. He was a great President and an inspiration. Trump as shown us what kind of person he is over the years. I didn't watch The Apprentice. I mainly knew Trump from his involvement with Boxing. He came on the political scene as a Birther and since he ran for President he has proposed the craziest political policies imaginable from building a wall to keep out illegals (and make Mexico pay for it which angered their President) to banning immigrants from select Muslim countries to vowing that he would reverse as many of Obama's decisions as possible including the Affordable Care Act. He basically tricked conservatives and the Tea Party in to thinking he was for them and as much trash as he talked about Obama being a horrible President he was really grateful for his help now wasn't he? Trump is a pathological liar. The only way he is going to have a successful Presidency is if he is really a liberal in disguise and is going to pattern his political decisions after Obama since it is clear that he doesn't know what he is doing. How do you like what he has done so far? Washington is in disarray and people are protesting all over the world.

    Trump is obviously bad news. We will see what state the country is in over the next few months. I'm not optimistic about his Presidency at all and neither are most Americans.

    There's a difference between electing an outsider with a vision like Obama, which was real change and electing someone who doesn't have the experience to know what they are doing and is temperamentally unfit to be President. Politics is a dirty business. That is common knowledge. To be a good politician you have to be very image conscious. You have to be artful in your speech. You have to work with a lot of people including some you may not like, some of them are corrupt and you have to make a lot of promises to get support. When you get elected if you really want to change things you have to understand how the system works and know what you can and can't do. There are checks and balances. Trump thinks he can do everything on his own and rule like a dictator. He is in for a rude awakening and this job is going to put incredible stress on him. I honestly don't know if his mind can take 4 years of being President. If he doesn't get impeached because of a scandal he may resign because he can't handle the pressure. Either way I don't think he lasts more than a term.
     
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    Like I said, a true Obama worshiper may be hard to find, but you have to hand them credit for being truly apologetic for his actions and try to run down Trump.
     
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    Frankly so far, Trump has simply worked over the existing Obama orders and is raising your ire because he changes them or kills them.

    If you supported them when Obama did them, at least you can admit Trump can kill those orders.

    The Democrats are moving like molasses in deep winter. They simply obstruct.
     
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    This is a not altogether comfortable truth I've recently had to face. I then had to really look at that, to make sure it wasn't just more of the same self-righteousness (look at me, I'm awake and you're not!). I'm still not sure whether to be pleased or disappointed at realising that it isn't. It's cleansing, yes, but not yet comfortably so. Shedding of long held assumptions, culling of friends, losing respect for more radical family members, loss of comforting certainty, etc etc.
     
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    I have had a few times where me and the family had to just be careful not to step hard on toes. They don't mind doing it to me though. Old habits are hard to break. I spent years and years totally cocksure that then "we Democrats" got it right. Watched Nancy Pelosi today and you see she has that malady too. I see it in the network news broadcasters. Most are not as bad as Rachel Maddow is but they are very bad.

    When they take a single statement by Trump and drill deep into it for 5 straight minutes, and it's not very important, you know that Chuck Todd or even Dickerson is in a mood to nail Trump.

    It's blatant. Democrats enjoy it though since it plays into their hands. (Atlanta up 14-0) NE might be in deep trouble.
     
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    You would have to be living under a rock or posting only on conservative websites for the past 8 years to not encounter enthusiastic Obama supporters. We are not a rare breed.

    The blunders of Trump so far are numerous.

    Nymag.com - All the Terrifying Things That Donald Trump Did Lately

    He is the President now. He can do what he wants so long as it is legal. So far I am not impressed. Neither are most Americans....

    TheHill.com - Poll: Trump has lowest approval rating of any new president
     
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    There have been a few of his admirers .... I believe most posters here are not easily fooled and do not believe he walked on water. I saw him as a narcissistic blow hard.

    Trump has only crafted a few EO and selected a cabinet. And Democrats petulantly are slow walking. Maybe they think government runs itself.

    Perhaps you let the media get to you since it has them outraged. If they shut up, the public would calm down.

    By shut up I do not mean not to report. I mean stop lying and trying to upset the public. Maybe the media has a guilt complex. I wanted Kasich but shall have to make do with Trump.
    And so will you.

    Doesn't your media telling your what to think offend you?
     
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    I don't need the media to tell me that Trump is unfit to be President. He has demonstrated that this is the case with his foolishness. Just because he got elected does not mean I have to like it. I want him to be a good President just as I wanted Bush to be. But that is not realistic. Saying Obama is a narcissistic blowhard is name-calling and nothing more. He did a good job as President. You can't take that away from him by being in denial.
     
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    Heh, well Ben Carson was kicked to the curb by GOP voters for a bombastic reality T.V. who less than ten years ago was a staunch supporter of the Clinton's. So, self proclaimed "conservative voters" chose the VASTLY inexperienced Trump over the VASTLY inexperienced Carson because of his race baiting and skin color. Thus, we can conclude that Trump is the right's "affirmative action hire". There can be no other explanation for the least politically experienced presidential candidate EVER winning over 15 other candidates, many of them VASTLY more qualified AND conservative than Trump. Hell, I'm no fan of Cruz or Carson, but at the very least they have stuck to their "conservative principals". Your messiah Trump, after spending 60+ years of being a Democrat/liberal decided around 2011 (when he first started talking about running for the presidency on the GOP side) to pretend to be a champion of conservatism, and of course using the birther nonsense to get himself popularity among the low information idiots on the right. And you know what? It worked.
     
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    in 2009, Trump was an Obama supporter.

    That was of course before he decided to pretend to be a conservative to fool people like you. Enjoy your phony Reality T.V. star for president while you have him, because eventually an actual adult WILL get elected again, and he or she will probably do everything in their power to basically make it seem like Trump was never president in the first place. And you know what? Both the Democrats AND the GOP will likely approve of that. You know you are bloody damn awful when both major political parties think you're trash, and want you out of office.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OMG

    My pooooor widdle fweeings got hurt. Boo hoo

    :roflol:
     
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    I spent a long time strictly voting for Democrats. My problem is my family was all Democrats and I was conditioned from a boy to stick to them.

    But I and a few more posters who also voted for Democrats got smarter.

    Trump appears from what you tell me to also have got smarter.

    Remember, Ronald Reagan this nations best of all time president was also once a loyal Democrat and he changed.
     
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    It is a tough habit to kick and I know. I was once precisely like you are in how to talk to people.

    When Nixon won, i was angry. i was sure the world ended. But things moved forward.

    My first republican vote went to Reagan and I still had a heavy heart. But I wanted somebody that stood up for America and Carter lost my vote.

    Never looked back. Vote only republican today.

    Look, when I was a Democrat, I still admitted a Democrat sucked the big one. And studied a lot and figured out how I had been wrong all along to vote for any Democrat., There are others who post who was just that way. We changed.

    It takes a bit of will power but can be done.
     
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    Ronald Reagan is not comparable to Trump. Reagan didn't go from being a liberal all of his life to claiming to be a staunch conservative in his mid 60's. Trump only ran for the presidency on the GOP side because he saw an opportunity to do so. While I'm no fan of his politics, Ted Cruz REPEATEDLY tried to hammer in the fact over and over again that Trump was no conservative. In fact, many of the other GOP candidates tried to hammer that fact into the skulls of the low information GOP voters as well.

    Like I said, enjoy your Reality T.V. star while you have him. Meanwhile, hopefully there is an adult out there that will be willing and ready to clean up Trump's manure once he slithers his way out of office. He's been in office for a few weeks, and I ALREADY feel bad for his successor.
     
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    I'm fully capable of changing my views when I believe they are wrong. That is beside the point. Your reasons for supporting Trump or thinking Bush is smarter than Obama are highly illogical.
     
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    What was my choice? If you think it was Hillary, think again. She is not fit for the job.

    I judge Bush by a lot of things he has done.

    I first got a hunch he might be pretty intelligent by finding he had gone to two top ranked universities and had also attended a world class prep school.

    I found out he and some of the Stanford Professors got together for some serious talk when he was still a governor. They wanted a meeting and figured they would find out what he was made of over a period of hours of meetings.

    They were stunned. They claimed how he talks on a mike or on TV does not represent his true intellect. Anyway, they alleged he is quite smart.

    Obama is down graded me because of a thing you really do know very well about the man,

    He is very very slow on decisions. I have read his fans allege he is slow in decisions because he studies and studies.

    Bush was much faster. Bush had a lot more innate ability to make faster decisions than did Obama.
     
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    Don't romanticize Obama... "a vision". :roll:

    Sounds like you are describing Trump. Dirty politics. Dealing with people you don't like. Make promises for support. Works with the system after getting elected.

    Sure. Obama rules by E.O. and it is a vision. Trump does it and he is a dictator. Good job.

    Is this satire?

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    Of course Bush is intelligent. He just wasn't really good at making impromptu speeches.
     
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    Your nymag source is a joke...

    and threatened to invade Mexico.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/every-terrifying-thing-that-donald-trump-has-done.html

    "It's absolutely false that the United States president threatened to send troops to Mexico," Peña Nieto's (Mexico's President) spokesmen Eduardo Sanchez said in a radio interview.

    http://www.fxtribune.com/breaking/t...o-us-and-mexican-officials-agree-h521378.html

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    Just as calling Trump a dictator is name calling and nothing more...

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    Hey... guess what? Trump IS THE PRESIDENT.

    In your world maybe you can label him phony but in the real world he is President. When he makes a decision it is gonna happen. Deal with it.
     
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    So Trump is no conservative, but the Democrats are having a freak out over him like they have not had since Lincoln won. Why can't you guys just be smug that you tricked the GOP into voting for a liberal Democrat? You guys should be happy but it's like you all need to be on meds.
     

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