>>MOD WARNING>>'White privilege' essay contest ruffles upscale coastal town

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  1. ButterBalls

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    Probably same reason you didn't, and oddly asking the question, only to realize "Later" that the internet could answer both and have saved you the embarrassment of asking the silly question to begin with :icon_picknose:
     
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    Is this the beginning of an essay explaining the failed logic that is liberalism, because if it is you're onto a very good start.
     
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    Well said.
     
  4. superbadbrutha

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    LOL, that's the best you can come up with.

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    Just for the record can you give me a list of all the great privileges black folks have had since 1917.
     
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    I am White and Blonde. Living under a German Monarchy.

    I be worshipped like a God in your country.
     
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    This is an example of AA run amok.
     
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    Cause it would be racist to single out a white person achieving something for being white, silly=) Black people are applauded every day for their achievements, as if melanin has something to do with it and not the brain on the inside.
     
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    Exactly!!! So why is it only a problem when men dominate a field? Of course certain fields attract certain people. But its discrimination to single out male coders for being bigots for not making it easier for women to code and not female teachers for not making room for men to teach. Absolutely less men decide to teach elementary school and that's the same for women going into coding or tech in general. You think there isn't a stigma if a guy wants to work with 5 yr old kids all day? There certainly is!!! And just because women want to code doesn't mean they are BETTER than the average male doing it. There are more guys because there are just more guys. And there more female teachers because there are just more female teachers....and thats OK. But good luck having an honest conversation about that though. When women or a minority can't achieve something its ALWAYS because of someone holding them back. Not the same for guys. Its not even in the conversation. When a man achieves something its not because they're a man, but when a woman does, its all about female power and breaking down walls and barriers. It's so old and tired. Stupid outdated B.S.
     
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    Talk about some BS, that situation didn't have a damn thing 2 do with AA.
     
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    Black people march al the time is that black privilege?
     
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    Or because no woman had ever done it before and now it's a milestone, ever think of that? Like the first woman in space?

    Or if we include race into it, the first black president i.e. Obama? Can you count the number of black presidents the U.S. has had prior to Obama in 2008?
     
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    I think after the last go around it would be less embarrassing to allow you the time to answer your own question, clearly it will be the best answer and another valuable lesson in what can be accomplish with google and proper timing :)
     
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    You missed the point. When black people march, they're not marching for others (ie, anyone viewed as beneath them - as white folk do), they're marching for their own terms for themselves. Privileged white people, in protesting, presume to speak for all those people that they aren't. And they most assuredly don't do it on the terms chosen by the people they claim to speak for. See aforementioned 'self hate'.
     
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    For those who are "rock climbers" this is the area of my conversation with the hiker in the Sierras.

    This can help rock climbers who may not know of this site.

    http://www.loversleap.net/
     
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    It's no different than being proud of the 43 white men who were presidents before him. Or pride that a white male took his place.

    If you're proud of a (female, black, gay, etc) accomplishment, then you're the (racist, sexist, homophobe, etc).
     
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    Why did his skin color matter to you?

    We could have had a black president say you supported
    Alan Keyes
    Herman Cain
     
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    As a Democrat obviously I would never support either one of them. The excitement over Obama was primarily based on what he said he was going to do and his ancestry since electing the first African-American President was seen as a milestone as well as something that could improve race-relations and Obama could be a positive role model for the African-American community.
     
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    What do we have that blacks want? I mean, there are a lot of wealthy blacks.

    But what do I have that they want and need?
     
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    Seems to me you entirely tossed out his mother in the equation and only favored a Kenyan that divorced the mother.

    Why didja do that?

    With Keyes or Cain, you could have 100 percent black.
     
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    Clinton honored as 'First Black President" at Congressional Black caucus dinner in 2008.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/clinton-honored-first-black-president-black-caucus-dinner
     
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    I didn't say anything about Obama's parents at all. I said his ancestry. In America there is a tradition of considering anyone with detectable African ancestry to be Black (One Drop Rule). While this was originally a racist concept African-Americans embraced it as a positive by being inclusive of biracial and multiracial people in the Black community. There is also a social reality to this concept. You can't just look at a biracial person and tell that they are biracial and because of America's long history of race-mixing most African-Americans are not 100% African genetically (including Alan Keyes and Herman Cain). If Obama were walking the street and not famous (which was true for him for much of his life) you wouldn't know that his mother was White or that his father was a Kenyan immigrant unless he told you. Most people would just consider him to be an African-American. If Obama can face racist discrimination for his Black ancestry why can't African-Americans embrace him as one of their own and consider him a positive role model for their community? Accepting Obama as an African-American is inclusive and positive and doesn't mean that his biracial heritage should be ignored. He can and is considered both African-American and biracial or multiracial (in his book he mentions having Native American ancestry on his mother's side).

    Obama's reaction to this issue is also very positive in my opinion. How we treat one another is more important then how we label people:

    [video=youtube;52qRIHshOEs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52qRIHshOEs[/video]
     
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    I take it humor is not something you recognize in the context of that.

    But neither of them gained enough support and Cain had to drop out because of other issues.

    That's incredibly bad logic there.
     
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    I think all the noise about ‘white privilege’ is just that: noise. America was, from the beginning, meant to be a white country - as far as I can tell. Why is it any surprise that whites were given preference in jobs, etc. And why should it be a surprise that it has continued on up through modern times?

    The problem is this: we now have a country filled with people of many ethnicities/races, and as the population has changed so should the old preferences change. And, to a great extent, things HAVE changed. The playing field is more level today than it has ever been. More opportunities are now available to everyone. BUT, no one deserves to have things handed to them. We all have to work for what we want.

    If African Americans want ‘black privilege’ all they have to do is move back to Africa. Many whites living in Africa have had their land and farms taken away by black governments, and that land has been given to black Africans (talk about black privilege). ‘Course, most, if not all of those farms quickly went to hell, but that’s another story.

    You’ll find a privileged group anywhere you find one particular group dominating the population. Japanese privilege in Japan? Hell yes. Chinese privilege in China? Of course.

    But the really great thing you see in America over and over again, is that people — whoever they are, and wherever they come from — nearly always find a way to succeed, if they really want to. These “doers” manage to build the life of their dreams, shape their own life and destiny. As long as they’re willing to bust their butt, learn what they have to learn, and work like there’s no tomorrow. NO ONE is really holding anyone back. The biggest limitations we face, are self-imposed.

    I’ve seen Mexican immigrants who started with literally nothing, work and save, and start a tiny business in a hole in the wall location. Then, years later, they have built a thriving company that hires many folks from the community. Same with immigrants from other countries. If these people can do it, starting with nothing, then surely those born here should be able to do the same. Unless — they're just lazy and want something for nothing. That is, unless they’re not willing to do the work and put forth the effort. In that case nothing will help them succeed.

    As far as I’m concerned, crying “White Privilege” is a worn out excuse. A crock of sh!t. Want a better life? It's simple. Get off your @ss and work for it. That’s how it’s done.
     
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    This looks like a tough essay assignment. People who voted for Trump are far from wealthy whites living in the leafy suburb. Most Trump voters are white working-class voters who have nothing to do with ‘white privilege’ and they want to get their factory jobs back from Mexico and China. America traditionally lacks class consciousness prevalent in British society and focuses too much of race and ethnicity.
     
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    WRONG the excitement was the color of his skin that's entirely what got him into bringing to experience or accomplishment to the table and we paid the price for it. And he certainly did nothing to improve the condition of the African-American community and to bad the first black president was such a failure.

    But I am curious why the black community would look up to him like that. He IS half white and he WAS raised in a white very upper-class community he had little if any experience in black society growing up.
     

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