Mossad recruited top Iranian scientists to blow up key nuclear facility

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  1. Iranian Monitor

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    Out of curiosity, how many (if any) had even heard about the Iraqi or Syrian nuclear reactor before Israel struck them? (In the case of Iraq, when Iraq had its hands full at war with Iran at the time and didn't want to retaliate and risk seeing the US and company tilt Iran's way; as for Syria, when the Assad regime had lost much of its sovereignty in the midst of civil war and now basically under Russian occupation strategically).

    Did Israel telegraph day in and day out its intentions and threaten action in case others don't? (which is what Israel has been doing for the better part of 20 years).

    Israel without nukes and the US on its side, would be a maximum 4-5 day operation for Iran/Hezbollah. And that's what you can take to "da bank"!
     
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  2. US Conservative

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    Israel has nukes.
     
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    Yes. And what Israel fears amid all the nauseating propaganda, is a situation where its freedom to brandish its nuclear arsenal to allow it to continue its lawless behavior is suddenly constrained or limited.

    While I believe the tools available to Iran to deter the Israelis seeking disproportionate leverage by implicitly (or even explicitly as we have seen more recently) brandishing their nuclear option are somewhat insufficient, and although I am convinced Iran will need a strong nuclear deterrent for that purpose, Iran does have a degree of deterrent power even by virtue of its conventional capabilities considering Israel's small size. Additionally, among Israeli facilities Iran could target would be Israel's Dimona nuclear reactor, which if successfully attacked such as in the manner Iran's military practiced a few days ago in a drill meant to serve a warning to Israel in response to its recent threats, would cause a radiation fallout that Israel would hardly be in a position to recover from.

    This headline is misleading and the report is filled with the usual propaganda, but it alludes to the military drill I am referring to. Incidentally, note the multiple drone launching system in the video.
    https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-689758
     
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    An Iranian nuclear scientist has a shorter life span than an American Rap singer.
     
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    Our graduates can't find jobs.I knew one guy who opened up a fast food joint instead.He calls it "Fission Chips".He's doing quite well.
     
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    Yes it's true.
     
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    To me, I wouldn't put it past Iran to make this up or torture scientists into admitting to something that didn't happen.
     
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    Let all the members here in the forum remember.
    The day Iran has a nuclear bomb, the West will live in fear.
    Iran is much more fanatical than North Korea.
     
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    It's getting sporty again...
     
  11. Iranian Monitor

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    I'm against Iran entering in any deal to revive the fraud aka JCPOA, the nuclear deal entered between Iran and the permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany. That was a fraud on Iran from the get-go and I hope Iran's leadership has learned its lessons and won't commit the same mistake again. Trump did Iran a huge favor tearing up that deal.

    The neocons and the Israelis are indeed often the gift that doesn't stop giving. In fact, but for the support they give to terrorist groups and treacherous elements in Iran, I would say more power to them (but in reality I can't: I hate liars and they have institutionalized lying in America and wherever their footprints are found and I still care about the America that can be, if not so much the one that is).


    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...-senators-raise-red-flags-after-iran-briefing
    'Sobering and shocking': Senators raise red flags after Iran briefing
    Even the leader of the anti-Iran, tool of the pro-Israel lobby among the Democrats, must realize the gap between facts and propaganda:
     
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    No need to live in any more fear than you already do Mate ... Pakistan far more extremist than Iran .. and they already have nukes.
     
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    Biden is a fool.
     
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    Israel has not been around for thousands of years
     
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    You do know that we wouldn't have these problems with Iran if they would just bend over and submit to the will of the U.S..
     
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    Probably, but even if the US makes the mullahs bend, I doubt the people of Iran will be so ready to submit. If they were, trust me, the Shah was a lot more cool than the mullahs will ever be.

    You know the word "Islam", in Arabic, means "submission to the will of God." When Iran was conquered by the Arabs, they accepted the new religion but only when submitting to the will of God was no longer submitting to the Arabs.

    By the time the Persians accepted Islam, they had transformed both the religion (from a tribal one to a religion with a universalist message) and the people in charge of the Islamic caliphate. A revolution, spearheaded in Iran, overthrew the Arab caliphate of the Umayads, moved the capital to the site of the Sassanian capital in Ctesiphon (where a new city, Baghdad, was built), took over the administration of the empire, and dominated its intellectual and scientific pursuits during a period known as the "Golden Age of Islam".

    What's more, in an age when being "Arab" was cool (like being American and under America's yoke is cool among some today), the Persians rejected Arabism and ushered the Persian renaissance. Alone among the nations the Arabs had conquered, the Persians became "Muslim" but not Arab. Even after this "Iranian Islam", with its universalist message, its sufis, poets and ethos (which even in 21st century America can find a place as a best-seller among Christians, atheists, and agnostics alike through the poetry of poets like Rumi), the Persians made sure there was never going to be an issue of submitting to any foreign potentate. They rallied to the Shia banner, rejecting even the historic legitimacy of those "rightly guided" Arab caliphs who had led the conquest of Iran. To this very day, the name Umar (popular among pious Muslims) is scorned in Iran because it also happens to be the name of the Arab caliph who conquered Iran.
     
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    Good for them I hope they blow up all of Iran's facility and bomb the hell out of its leadership until a revolt takes place in iran
     
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    Reports are that Iran sent several drones across Iraq heading to Israel to attack Israel.

    The US intercepted and shot them down.

    At same time Mossad sent drones to the Iranian drone bases and destroyed them.

    Also while the world.focuses on Ukraine, Russia has doubled air power in Syria to protect its naval base in Syria.
     
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    ...which so-called 'reports' are you referring? Let me guess: some Israeli or Saudi-financed propaganda outlet that is willing to print what even Israeli propaganda outlets aren't willing to directly? But this one seems straight from your fantasies and imagination only: which "reports" refer to some (imaginary) Mossad operation sending drones against "Iranian drone bases", never mind destroying them?

    In the real world,
    https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wo...ml?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed
    Hezbollah drone flies 40-minute tour of northern Israel, returns to Lebanon

     
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    It is not known how many precision guided rockets and missiles Hezbollah have in their arsenal of some 150,000 rockets and missiles. Most reports on the subject suggest around 200-300 missiles based on Iran's Fateh-110 precision guided, soil fuel, system. These missiles are accurate with a CEP under 10 meters, meaning they can even target small buildings like Iran showed in 2017 when it took out the small building operating as the HQ of an ant-Iranian Kurdish terrorist group operating in northern Iraq. They do what an air force does more reliably without risking pilot lives or the same costs.

    The other day, Nasrollah mentioned Hezbollah could turn its unguided rockets and missiles into thousands of precision guided systems. Israel's Iron Drone can't even handle a salvo of several dozen such rockets, but no one (not even the US) has a stockpile of anti-missile systems to handle what Hezbollah can accurately fire at Israel.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/nasra...ckets-into-precision-weapons-with-irans-help/
    Nasrallah claims Hezbollah can turn rockets into precision weapons with Iran’s help
     
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    I'd never QUOTE Brisbane times.

    You know how.aussie media gets.
     
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    lol
    the statement I quoted are actually from the Israeli military. They aren't in dispute, even is there are reporters and news organizations which know how to omit facts and use other subtle words not to upset their readers and let them live more comfortably with their delusions.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...leged-hezbollah-drone-scrambles-jets-82977677
    Israel fires missiles at Hezbollah drone flown from Lebanon
     
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    Gotta love Mossad, what an intelligence agency can achieve with a government that ruthlessly backs it.
     
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    What exactly you think they achieved? A couple of weeks after that act of state sponsored terrorism you applaud, for the first time Iran began enriching uranium to 60% purity. Since then, the break-out time for Iran to produce enough fissile material for a bomb has moved from a year to a couple of weeks.
     

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