MUCH More Obamacare TRUTH

So you would advocate eliminating private insurance and having all insurance provided by a government agency. Or do you actually have an alternative to private enterprise?

 

I advocate having a mass gov't - ectomy where we remove Big Brother from our personal business.

IOW return the freedom of citizens to make their own decisions regarding their health care.

Or do you agree with Democrats that Americans are too stupid to make their own decisions?

 

To allow citizens to make their own healthcare decisions you will l have to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, the ACA and all of the Insurance companies. All of these make decisions on healthcare and financIng Healthcare. Now if you are actually advocating a no insurance system where if you don't have the cash you don't get care unless you can negotiate a payment plan with the doctors and hospitals that would probable really reduce the money spent on healthcare in the US.

 

Not true. Medicare and Medicaid were here long before Obamacare. Folks have always been able to apply for those programs if they couldn't afford private insurance.

Do you think Americans are too stupid to make their own decisions?

 

More Obamacare truth:

"It's like an endless buffet of FAIL!!!! Just more control for the Freedom haters and lovers of being ruled.(*)

'Obamacare' jobs are a waste of money

I doubt that a small business owner would consider himself a winner if he had to hire someone to ensure compliance with governmental regulations rather than hire another employee to produce more product, sell more product, better produce the product or introduce a new product.

This is Obama's America. When considering all the regulations implemented and planned by his administration,(*)the negative impact they have had and will have on all businesses, the costs are and will be astronomical. Perhaps under his "free college for all," he should require that colleges offer degrees in "Compliance with Governmental Regulations."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/letters/2015/03/26/obamacare-jobs-waste-money/70512762/"

https://m.facebook.com/Healthcare.gov?_rdr

 

contrary to the incessant lies of the far right, ACA is working:



JOHN BOEHNER’S OBAMACARE PREDICTIONS FAILED, SO WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT?


http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politi...-failed-so-what-does-he-have-to-say-about-it/



House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) has once again gone on television and embarrassed himself. Yesterday, he appeared on NBC’s Meet the Press, where Chuck Todd asked him what he has to say about the fact that Obamacare is working. Boehner didn’t just try to downplay that; he flat-out said that the uninsured rate has only fallen for one reason. Obamacare, to him, is an utter failure.

According to MSNBC, Todd specifically asked about the surveys that show more people are insured now than ever, and how it is that the country has added millions of jobs when the ACA is such a job killer. Boehner said:

Obamacare made it harder for employers to hire people. The economy expands and as a result, you are going to have more employees because businesses have to. But if you can ask any employer in America, and ask them whether Obamacare has made it harder for them to hire employees, they’ll tell you yes. Because it’s a fact.

When you look at – you know why there are more people insured? Because a lot more people are on Medicaid. And giving – you know, we expanded Medicaid in a big way. And giving people Medicaid insurance is almost like giving them nothing. Because there aren’t – you can’t find a doctor that will see Medicaid patients.
There’s no evidence supporting either of these statements, but Boehner can’t back down from his predictions that the ACA would cause our economy to implode. For instance, according to Bloomberg, the healthcare industry has seen unprecedented levels of entrepreneurship as the ACA spawned new healthcare companies.

Also, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation study that Wallethub analyzed, 57 percent of those who enrolled in private plans were previously uninsured. Medicaid is not a private insurance plan, and so Boehner’s assertion that it’s the reason the uninsured rate has dropped is outright false.

To be sure, the ACA has its faults. One of those faults is that many people feel there aren’t enough choices, and they feel they’re being forced to pay for types of coverage they don’t feel they need. This is especially hard on the self-employed, who have to buy health insurance for themselves. People should be able to tailor their insurance to their needs a little better than the ACA currently allows.

For some of the self-employed, it also means that deductibles and premiums no longer have an inverse relationship. Some are paying a ridiculous premium, with a deductible they’ll never meet. In essence, it’s like having no insurance, except they’re paying for having no insurance.

There are other problems, too. The ACA desperately needs some fixes and tweaks, and the GOP has a chance to do that. They have the chance to actually take a law that needs fixed and fix it, but they won’t do that. They’d rather continue to lie about the success stories with the ACA, and waste time and money trying to repeal it, than try to fix it, to make it better.

One of these days, when it comes to the ACA, Boehner will humiliate himself beyond repair. If he keeps up with this nonsense, that day will come sooner, rather than later.






ACA works = Thank you President Obama!

 

New study gives more evidence of Obamacare gains for millions
Affordable Care Act



http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fi-obamacare-coverage-20150506-story.html



As congressional Republicans move toward another vote on repealing the Affordable Care Act, new evidence was published Wednesday about the dramatic expansion of insurance coverage made possible by the law.

Nearly 17 million more people in the U.S. have gained health insurance since the law's major coverage expansion began, according to a study from the Rand Corp., a Santa Monica nonprofit research firm.

That tally takes into account 22.8 million newly insured people and 5.9 million who lost coverage in the last year and a half.

Fewer Americans are uninsured

Researchers found gains across all types of insurance, including employer-provided coverage, government Medicaid programs and policies offered through state insurance marketplaces created by the law.

At the same time, the vast majority of Americans have seen no change in the source of their coverage, with 80% remaining in the same insurance, researchers found.

Related Number of Californians without health insurance drops sharply
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Number of Californians without health insurance drops sharply
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“The ACA has greatly expanded health insurance coverage in the United States with little change in the source of coverage for those who were insured before the major provisions of the law took effect,” concluded the authors of the study, published online
by the journal Health Affairs.



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MILLIONS added to the coverage rolls!

 

More American may be insured but at what cost? The fact they have insurance means nothing if it isn't cost effective. Say they pay even $1200.00 per year in premiums but have a $`1000.00 deductible and an out of pocket of $500 and co-pay of $25 plus. It means they pay 1200.00 in premiums plus the first $1000.00 of there medical expenses and no less than $25 per regular office visit. Unless the insured incurs major medical expenses, they would have been better off in this example paying for their care in cash.

PPACA didn't regulate the premiums Insurance Companies could charge based upon the stated deductible out of pocket and co-pay the insurance plan offers. So you pay a higher premium, higher deductible that virtually makes it not cost effective.

 

45,000 dead Americans every year from lack of health care is a BLOOD TAX which costs society far more than anything else. While the thought of Americans needlessly dying is a great source of happiness for those of you from the far right, the reforms which save lives are a great comfort to those of us who cherish lives and the USA.

 

I'm sure you wouldn't try to mislead anyone. That's people without health INSURANCE. Not healthcare.

Not the same thing. Thanks to charity hospitals, no one in this country ever has to go without healthcare.

No thanks to Barack Obama and his circle of deceivers.

 

Still trotting out your unfounded claim? Not surprised. Facts are not needed when propaganda is presented.

 

a year later and still no existing proof of his statement about the 45,000.
No demographics...such as
drug users, gang activity, suicides, illegals..etc......
wonder why that is? That's cuz he's got nothing, never has, never will.
That 45,000 number is pure unadulterated bunk
When you consider that 45,000 is less than 1% of the population, I'd say were doing a pretty good job
would you be willing to bet that number is lifted off of the Liberal Handbook for Trolling the Internet with Over-inflated Values and personal website?
Know how I can tell? That was his argument in 2014 for 2013. So since Obamacare, we have still lost 45,000 in 2014, according to him, in 2015...get where this is going?

 

LOL!

The proof has already been presented but the hate filled and blind right wing trolls still refuse to see the TRUTH.


Independent Study Finds That Every Republican Prediction About Obamacare Was Wrong



http://www.politicususa.com/2015/05...ds-republican-prediction-obamacare-wrong.html



It’s like Republicans are cursed by facts these days.

Just days after House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) went on Meet the Press to fearmonger about Obamacare, yet another study came along to sock it to his desperate Obamacare claims. An independent health policy research program study released Wednesday showed all of his predictions about Obamacare were wrong. Way wrong. Wrong on every single fearmongering prediction and claim they made.

Under Obamacare, nearly 17 million have gotten insurance coverage since the fall of 2013. Seventeen MILLION.

The Rand analysis of their study revealed the facts:

Insurance coverage has increased across all types of insurance since the major provisions of the federal Affordable Care Act took effect, with a total of 16.9 million people becoming newly enrolled through February 2015, according to a new RAND Corporation study.
Researchers estimate that from September 2013 to February 2015, 22.8 million Americans became newly insured and 5.9 million lost coverage, for a net of 16.9 million newly insured Americans.
Republicans are running on taking that insurance away?

Republicans like to claim that it’s all Medicaid expansion. Survey says, wrong again.

Among those newly gaining coverage, 9.6 million people enrolled in employer-sponsored health plans, followed by Medicaid (6.5 million), the individual marketplaces (4.1 million), nonmarketplace individual plans (1.2 million) and other insurance sources (1.5 million).
And remember how Republicans sounded the hysteria alarms that Obama was ruining their insurance and nobody would get to keep their insurance?

The study also estimates that 125.2 million Americans — about 80 percent of the nonelderly population that had insurance in September 2013 — experienced no change in the source of insurance during the period, according to findings published online by the journal Health Affairs.
Republicans said Obamacare would cause private employers to stop offering insurance. Survey says, wrong again:

RAND researchers say the findings that the biggest gain in coverage was from employer-sponsored insurance runs counter to predictions that many employers may quit offering insurance in response to the Affordable Care Act and suggests that regardless of whether that occurs, employer-sponsored coverage will remain the nation’s major source of health insurance coverage.
On Sunday, this happened:

Chuck Todd confronted Boehner about his wrong Obamacare predictions that fewer people would have health care under the ACA and that Obamacare would kill jobs.
Boehner replied, “Obamacare made it harder for employers to hire people. The economy expands and as a result you’re going to have more employees because businesses have to. But you can ask any employer in America and ask them if Obamacare has made it harder to hire employees because it’s a fact. Um, yeah. Do you know why there’re more people insured? Because a lot more people are on Medicaid, and you know giving people Medicaid insurance is almost like giving them nothing. Because there aren’t, you can’t find a doctor that will see Medicaid patients, and so where do they end up? In the same place, they used to end up, in the emergency room.”
We already debunked the Speaker’s first point about Obamacare killing jobs. This is not happening. The only people killing jobs are Republicans, due to the sequester and their refusal to pass any jobs legislation.

A poll by the National Association of Business Economics (NABE) that surveyed four sectors of the economy found that seventy-five percent of business owners said that the ACA has not impacted their hiring practices. An additional 85% said that they didn’t expect the ACA to impact their hiring practices in the future.
In fact, President Obama has set a record for the longest stretch of private sector job growth of any modern president. So much nope. The public sector is suffering job losses due to the Republican sequester but also due to state Republicans slashing funds.

None of the predictions and claims Republicans — and indeed our media — ran with for years have come true. A “glitch” did not stop 17 million people from getting coverage.

The air leaking out of the GOP’s ACA lies balloon, and the Republican Party is in for a rough landing if they continue to insist on repealing Obamacare.







This TRUTH makes the right wing trolls cry.


But we patriots applaud!

 

LOL @ Independent Study. Sponsored by wh.gov.

 

Its never going to be cost effective when it's done through private insurance. Private insurance requires that a profit be turned, more money made then spent on healthcare, the effect of this was tamed with restrictions based on pre existing conditions, age, disability etc. Because everyone is now entitled to the same insurance plans at the same rates with the same amount of service, it's going to be adjusted so that the prices are shifted around so everyone is paying for the risk factor of everyone enrolled in that state, regardless of whether that patient is a high risk. This is why the government should have never gotten involved in the private insurance market, and instead just created its own single payer option under a non-profit company this would have never been a problem. People who didn't like it don't have to participate and can continue to buy in the free market under free market rules. There could still be a mandate, and if you purchased private insurance, you wouldn't have to pay a penalty.

 

where's the damned demographics you promised to deliver? unavailable at this time, or simply non-existent from the git?
or lifted off of your facebook page........either way that claim is a lie

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like any good thief, those stealing from everyone else to live luxuriant life style while sucking their neighbors dry ...seems that it makes more enemies than friends...not much of a success

 

it's not cost effective now...let's take for example... a policy for two runs about $4,000 a year for Obama's cheap plan. Then they have to pay an additional $2000 per person covered for the initial deductible bringing their costs up to approx. $10,000..hardly a win when you consider that most people don't have the frickin' deductible, therefore they cannot receive the so-called miraculous insurance..
bull(*)(*)(*)(*)......

 

Most people don't even have the $2000 Deductable? Do you have any actual data or are you speaking just for yourself. Two thousand will be a minor problem if the person has a major problem like cancer. The cheap plan was basically designed as catastrophic coverage and it does that very well.

How do you think those who can't handle the Deductable handled their medical expenses prior to the ACA? Or do you think prior to the ACA everbody had cheap insurance with no Deductable.

Maybe time for you to put forth your ideas on how to solve the problem.

 

Republicans don't have any ideas.

All they want is more American deaths every year due to lack of health care coverage. But they will not get their way and for this they CRY.


Lol!

 

Obamacare is a huge failure. Ignoring the facts won't help.

"Hawaii Obamacare exchange is shutting down. Epic failure cost federal taxpayers $205,342,270."

http://insurancenewsnet.com/oarticl...dlines-in-preparation-of-ending-services.html …

 

You basically just re-affirmed my point. I said, it's not cost effective trying to mess with for profit insurance programs and the gov't should have left it alone. The only way to receive insurance that actually is cost effective and covers care regardless is a group insurance under a non profit insurance company that fully intends on putting 100% of it's earning back into the cost of care. Private insurance as it was before was basically a people lottery, insurance companies gambled on the idea that you would end up paying more (or the majority of those insured) for the insurance then they expended through the cost of care. Not everyone is going to get in a car accident or become disabled or get cancer, they might just get sick every now and then. They bank on the idea that you will receive less care over the lifetime of the plan then they pay, and if they have any reason to believe this isn't the case before signing up, then you either are denied insurance, or charged a very high premium and deductible. Now they can't charge more or less to one person and must insure everyone, so when you have a $400 premium and $7000 deductible even though you'd never normally spend that on care, you're basically "cost sharing" with someone who might be disabled or have cancer. This was the reason health prices were so high, because hospitals and doctors would "cost share" to make up for people who couldn't get insurance that couldn't pay in full, so basically all it's done is set the way for lower cost healthcare, and higher cost insurance, however now the price is shifted to those who can buy insurance, and since the government can't actually force people to buy insurance and many state governments refused to expand medicaid, hospitals and doctors will still continue cost sharing on top of high insurance. It was a poorly thought out plan with too many "free market" compromises made.

 

Thousands of jobs created as well as lives saved thanks to Obamacare:



http://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/healthcare-adds-45000-jobs-april-hiring-picks


Healthcare adds 45,000 jobs in April as hiring picks up Healthcare has added 390,000 jobs in the past year, the Labor Department said.


The healthcare industry added 45,000 jobs in April, the largest gain in months, led by big gains in ambulatory center hiring leading the sector, according to data from the Department of Labor’s Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Overall, the U.S. economy added 223,000 jobs in the month, and the the unemployment rate fell to 5.4 percent.

Healthcare has added 390,000 jobs in the past year, the Labor Department said.



Ambulatory services added 25,300 jobs in April, compared to March. Hospitals added 11,800 jobs, nursing care facilities added 10,400 and physician offices added 9,300 jobs. Now sector in healthcare lost jobs, though home health services added the smallest amount with 2,700 jobs.

April’s gains marked a big turnaround from March, when the sector added just 22,000 jobs, the lowest growth in months.

[Also: Healthcare hiring slows in March]

Here’s the seasonally adjusted breakdown for the healthcare sector. All numbers are in thousands:

Industry April 2014 Feb. 2015 March 2015 April 2015 Change
Industry April 2014 Feb. 2015 March 2015 April 2015 Change





Republicans cry while we patriots celebrate!

 

our new Bammy Plan, which I was forced to take through a work plan, (because my old plan didn't pay for the total *women's Health* portion of ACA) actually costs me more now, plus it doesn't matter about the deductible, you pay it for whatever. DR office calls, maybe a cat scan or x-ray, all come out of pocket before my insurance portion kicks in...then it's 80/20, still yet after meeting my deductible.
The point being is that I have to make short term arrangements to pay this off, while that bill lingers for 30 days, then gets rolled over to a collection agency. With Bammycare, since I failed to make my initial 2000 dollar payment, it starts all over again.
Now between my wife and myself, our total insurance premiums are $718 a month. at $ 8,616 annually, plus the other potential $4,000 deductible, I am paying 3 times what I paid before, less coverage, and a higher deductible, and red flags all over my medical records due to HbP.
Last year, my last claim to my old insurance company was due to sepsis pneumonia. My out of pocket for a $ 35,000 hospital visit was only $ 550.
Nope. I'm a lot worse off now than before AND still do not qualify for the subsidy. going to prison would be cheaper..... make you pay for it

 

dang it Smarty, I was going to post this.............lmao

 

Please refrain from exposing the truth about this disastrous gov't takeover of our healthcare. This thread is about anything BUT truth.

45000 lives are saved every second by Obamacare.

And if you like your plan you can keep your plan.

Thank you, President Liar.