Muslims and Christians dont worship the same God.

The Quran. Mohammad had several hundred people of the banu qurayza Jewish tribe killed, because they broke a treaty with him.

 

I believe you're having a lend!

Yahweh murdered every man, woman, child, and unborn infant on the planet. Just because he wasn't entirely happy with the design. and that was just HIS handiwork. He ordered the slaughter of many on other occasions.

 

Less than 90 men who asked to be judged by their own laws.... and they were.

 

yeah, the Muslim God only spared a boat load, killed everyone else

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oh right, so they're all in the same part of the world, around the same time, with a more or less shared history, but it's a different adam and eve.

you live in some freaky fools paradise there, WRen. do you just pretend like a small child whenever reality gets in the way of your walking fantasy life?

 

and those other religions say yours is one of the vast array of myths, and theirs is the true religion. see how that works?

Sometimes I think Christians deliberately avoid thinking. Is it really even possible to be a sane adult theist and NOT have realised this patently obvious and very telling fact about religions?

 

Sam, it's abundantly clear you've not read your bible. Gorn Capt posted two examples of scripture which answer your question, and I wonder how you missed these, if you have read the bible?

 

No. There were hundreds of men in the Banu Qurayza tribe.

 

Gorn captain took the verses out of context.

 

[video=youtube;HVuw1wEuaAQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuw1wEuaAQ[/video]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Banu_Qurayza

 

HONK! Sorry.....


"'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant..."--- 1 Samuel 15:3


As for "Nowhere in the Bible does it say kill unbelievers"?.....try again-

"If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,

And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:

Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."----Deuteronomy 17:2-7

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Sam always says this when his "Bible scholarship" is proven DEAD WRONG.

He claims something about the Bible...then when you QUOTE the Bible (oddly, he doesn't)...he says "That was taken out of context".

He is fundamentalist...and also fundamentally dishonest, intelletually dishonest as well. Sad thing is he's only a teenager....so it's only going to get worse as he becomes an adult...or should I say...gets older.

 

Huh? I don't know who taught you Arab, but Allah definitely means God. Arab Christians use Allah to refer to God.

1. No where does God say hate the unbelievers in the Qur'an.

2. So what if Qur'an promises virgins?

1. Evidence that jinns are beings from pre-Islamic Arabia?

2. So what if it didn't mention ALL the prophets?

 

Actually ancient people use the donkey as a mode of transportation and in Biblical history the donkey played a very key role as a mean of transport for people to travel from one place to another. Today donkeys are still use in rural areas.

Unleavened bread is one of the main staple food especially in the ancient Middle East and is still up to today. The leavening agent incorporates gas bubbles into the dough. The alternative or supplement to leavening agents is mechanical leavening by which air is incorporated by mechanical means. Most leavening agents are synthetic chemical compounds, but carbon dioxide can also be produced by biological agents. When a dough or batter is mixed, the starch in the flour mixes with the water in the dough to form a matrix (often supported further by proteins like gluten or other polysaccharides like pentosans or xanthan gum), then gelatinizes and "sets"; the holes left by the gas bubbles remain.

Goats are still being consume today the goat meat, and high quality milk are vital source of vitamins.
Ancient people were able to understand the importance of goat, the ways and art of bread making and the importance of the a donkey. Later centuries for some reason some secular or atheist people will associate donkeys as being stupid or useless they will loose the sense of value for goats, leavened bread or donkeys.

 

Many pagan religions were in existence long before God revealed Himself to Noah and just like scientist learning that our planetary planets revolves around the sun when back then it was thought that it was the other way around scientist just like Christians were able to reveal true science and true religion that early pagan religions have failed to do so.

Here is a good editorial:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/13/opinion/bergen-islam-terrorism/index.html

(CNN)Does Islam have anything to do with the terrorist atrocities in Paris last week? The short, uncomfortable, answer is: Of course it does.

Consider the choice of targets of the terrorists: A magazine that in the terrorists' minds had insulted the Prophet Mohammed. Before they died on Friday, one of the Kouachi brothers who carried out the attack on the Charlie Hebdo magazine spoke on the phone to a French journalist, saying, "We are just telling you that we are the defenders of Prophet Mohammed."

Peter Bergen

Consider that the other target of the terrorists was a kosher store serving Jews. Virulent anti-Semitism is, of course, a staple of militant Islamist ideology. Militants can point to the Quranic verse, "O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends," as religious "proof" for this position.

Consider also that the three terrorists believed in their own minds that they were holy warriors who would die "martyred" in their holy war and that they would live on in Paradise.

One of the terrorists, Cherif Kouachi, planned to fight in the Iraq War against the Americans but was detained by French authorities in 2005 before could execute his plan. Kouachi told French investigators that "the wise leaders in Islam told him and his friends that if they die as martyrs in jihad they would go to heaven" and "that martyrs would be greeted by more than 60 virgins in a big palace in heaven." This refers to the hadith, or saying of the Prophet Mohammed, that martyrs will enjoy the favor of 72 virgins.

Before he was killed, another of the terrorists, Amedy Coulibaly, recorded a "martyrdom" video in which pledged his allegiance to the leader of ISIS. In the video he said, "I am firstly addressing the caliph of the Muslims Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. ... I pledged allegiance to the Caliph as soon as the caliphate was declared."


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This statement refers to the belief that a Muslim caliphate, or empire, will stretch across the Muslim world and will be led by a caliph, who is the political and religious successor of the Prophet Mohammed.

The fact that the Paris attacks have something to do with Islamic beliefs cannot be wished away either by claims that Islam is simply a religion of peace, or by political correctness, or because we live in an increasingly secularized modern era that often doesn't take deeply held religious beliefs sufficiently seriously. (Nor, of course, does it mean that Muslims who reject fanatical beliefs bear any kind of responsibility for what happened in Paris, as Rupert Murdoch suggested in a much-criticized tweet, or have a particular obligation to do something to fight extremism.)

 

Jesus Christ is the best example. According to Islam their Jesus publicly declare he is not the Son of God and that the person that was crucified was his look a like or was actually Judas clearly contradicting historical facts for if Jesus of Islam did publicly declare he is not God then why would the Pharisees want to have Jesus look a like executed for blasphemy? and if the look a like was Judas why didn't he said so was he mute and deaf? Does this mean that the look a like was actually the real Jesus for refusing to deny he is God?

Mohammed and his conquest is another example. Clearly it was Mohammed who introduced and created Islam and led his new found religion his followers he called Muslims to wage a global war against anyone who refused to submit that is why it is called Islam. Muslims are in clear denial of this historical fact.

Just this two for now there are many example but this two alone Muslims and their supporters can't seem to reconcile the truth.

 

Muhammed never called for global war ...

I think its curious that you don't question blood sacrifice.. Muslims are mystified that we aren't thrilled that Jesus who was without sin didn't die such a cruel and humiliating death.

 

Margot, does what WanRen claims have ANY credibility whatsoever at this point???

 

No.. and I really wonder what's wrong.

 

the father of Jesus in both stories is the same God

 

What's wrong? What's wrong is he thinks he can fabricate things and it's "okay with God" because he considers himself "righteous."

 

Well, ONE THING for sure is that there's no way in heck that any book about JESUS would order "mass slaughter of children and babies", or else Jesus, being the most moral man of all time, would have been moral enough to see that said mass slaughter was NOT, REPEAT NOT, included in a book about him, he's too moral to let that happen!!......right? Right? Because before Jesus spent any time at all answering a "prayer" from a believer in the last 2000 years, he would have been hard at work on the higher priority of seeing that approval of mass slaughter of innocent people was of course scrubbed from the main book about him. Right? (Why do I hear crickets...is my hearing going bad or something?)

 

Righteous won't save anyone.

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Righteous won't save anyone.

 

You will not golf up there, you will be too busy raping 72 virgins that are handed to you.....and dealing with 72 mothers-in-law......

 

That is another example why Muslims and their supporters are in denial and contradiction with factual history and current events.

The willingness to die for others so that others may live is what differentiate Christians from Islamist. Islamist will kill anyone in the most cruelest and humiliating manner.