Nancy Pelosi: ICE Agents are Voter Suppression

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member

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    Non-citizens do register to vote in local and state elections depending on the state's laws in that regard, but they can't vote in national elections for president or congress.
     
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    Why would you believe that anyone did not know that illegals immigrants cannot legally vote?
     
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    Oh good grief, here we are with the right wing boogeyman, Soros. From your own pist: "
    Oh good grief, here we are with the right wing's favorite boogyman, Soros. From your post: "an unincorporated Antifa group ..."

    I stand by my post, antifa is not an organization. And Soros has every right to donate his money wherever he likes, just like Robert Mercer or Charles Koch.
     
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    How would any agent know if the people walking into a polling place were legal citizens or not?
     
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    Am I to understand that Charles Koch is also allowed to donate to political campaigns? You would never believe that is true if you listened to some democrats.
     
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    Let's hope so. Obama deployed armed Black Panthers then dropped charges against them. Trump should deploy Nazis, white supremacists, bikers for Trump, Proud boys, and gun toting QANON 2nd amendment types. Oh yeah, & Russians.
     
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    Already answered in #50.
     
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    LOL! Have you read some of the posts here?

    Can't cure stupid, but in the information age, ignorance is a choice.
     
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    Guys, no point in this! The lefties KNOW illegals are voting, they just don't care. That is why you barely see any of them responding in here.
     
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    Yes, I know. Both sides gripe about money in politics, but no one seems able to muster the political will to do anything about it. And incidentally, the right wing sponsored the SCOTUS case that resulted in the Citizens United decision, which enables even more "dark money" going into political campaigns.

    (There's a really good book called "Dark Money" that I recommend highly.)
     
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    Obama did no such thing. He has no ties to the Panthers. Those guys were there on their own initiative. And unlike Trump, Obama did not provide encouragement to crazy fringe groups. Not that groups like QAnon need encouragement.
     
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    Guns in the hands of uniformed law enforcement only make criminals and the criminally stupid nervous
     
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    Not a clue, is that the plan?
     
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    And yet the first video shows that they have. And apparently only after a review that is done every few years caught them.
     
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    It's absolutely true that they dropped charges against them so what's fair is fair. Besides, if your side can loot, burn, riot and assault our side then what's a little voter intimidation by our side?
     
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    Not a clue, is that the plan?
     
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    Perhaps you have too many of us in "Ignore"?

    In some states, non-citizens, including undocumented, are allowed to vote in local elections, like for school board members and such, but you can't register and vote in national elections without proof of citizenship. There may be a few who have managed to acquire fake documents, but not enough to sway election outcomes. Illegals tend to stay out of things like that and not draw attention to themselves, for obvious reasons.
     
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    Um ... I think the plan is to vote by mail in ballots, isn't it? Your reply makes no sense, so I'll ask again: How would a law enforcement officer at a polling place be able to tell if someone walking in the door was not a citizen? Wouldn't they have to "demand to see their papers"? Or something like that, which would be ridiculous, since the first thing one does at a polling place is go to the poll worker with the registry to verify they are registered, which means that they provided proof of citizenship previously when they registered to vote in that state. The last time I voted in person was 2000 in New York, and that's how it worked then.
     
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    EVERY vote matters
     
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    They got caught. Good. See how that works? Trump has too many people worried about nothing.
     
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    My "side" does no such thing. You don't see me holding you responsible for right wing nut jobs who shoot innocent people in churches, mosques, and syngogues, so don't blame me for left wing knuckleheads. That was rude.
     
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    Can you guarantee they got them all?

    In 2017 most violent and property crime goes unsolved. In 2015 less than half of violent crimes are reported. LINK If that is true of those types of crimes how many crimes of voting fraud goes undetected?

    But hey, you keep making excuses. It's all a "Republican lie" right? Never mind that you went from "cannot even register for national elections" to "do register to vote in local and state elections depending on the state's laws in that regard, but they can't vote in national elections" and finally to "They got caught. Good. See how that works?". Continually shifting goal posts to suit your narrative. Let's just forget human nature, the problems of enforcing law, problems of detecting illegal aliens voting etc etc. It's obvious from our little discussion here that you don't actually know what's going on, you're just parroting talking points.

    And stop with the blaming of everything on Trump. I've been talking about this very type of thing LONG before Trump came along. Another example of you not knowing what's actually going on and just parroting talking points.
     
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    I have no idea if that's the plan. Do you? Is there a plan?

    I've always voted in person but I know many absentee voters.
     
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    If there is truly nothing to worry about, let those who believe voter fraud is not a problem go about proving such conclusively, beyond reasonable doubt.

    Support requirements that only those who can prove their citizenship and legal status are able to vote in any election. Make dedicated efforts to ensure voter rolls are regularly purged of all ineligible individuals.

    If individuals must submit to a mandatory background check before purchasing a firearm, on the off-chance they are a prohibited individual, then there is no reason the same approach is not applied to the act of voting in the united states.
     
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