Nations Gather To Defend Against Russian Aggression

AP May 18, 2016

WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Equipment belonging to NATO's new "Spearhead" rapid-reaction force was disembarked in a Polish port on Wednesday as part of a major test of the force's capability to quickly relocate wherever the alliance faces a threat.

Some 500 items and hundreds of troops arrived in Szczecin by ship from Spain and were to travel immediately to a test range in western Zagan, where they are to be joined by more equipment and troops from Britain, Albania and Poland for the "Brilliant Jump" exercise that runs until May 27.

Lt. Gen. Manfred Hofmann, commander of a multinational corps based in Szczecin, said the exercise is to "prove in the coming days that NATO is ready to defend all its allies."

Next month, some of the troops will take part in the biggest military exercise on Polish soil since the 1989 transition to democracy, the "Anaconda-16" exercise that is to involve some 30,000 troops, including from the U.S.

Poland, concerned over neighbor Russia's actions, has sought firm security guarantees from NATO. Among other things, it has requested a permanent presence of U.S. troops on its soil, arguing that NATO's eastern flank is still lacking that. Such guarantees are to be set at NATO's summit in July in Warsaw.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/nato-troops-disembark-major-exercise-poland-124827069.html?ref=gs

 

Yeah....Russia will whine & cry and Putin will wet his pants again but there's little chance that he'll launch any of those penis-envy S500 missiles that his apologists have been bragging about on these forum boards.

 

LOL
So you liken these Russian trolls to Chihuahuas? Lot of bark and growl, but little else.

 

what are we building >looks like we are digging our own graves here. another missile base in poland [video=youtube;Pw5ruxEG5aA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw5ruxEG5aA[/video]

where getting to intertwine with poland this will drag the usa into a major conflict we dont need to be in the future possablly
http://en.mon.gov.pl/news/article/l...issile-defense-base-in-redzikowo-82016-05-13/

 

the missile defense is against Iran and North Korea, not Russia with its 5,000 nukes

 

then put that missile base on the puerto rico island screw the eu let them fend for themsleves

 

They're the ones to watch - maybe NATO isn't as dumb as I thought.

 

You could of course have looked it up. Do you "think" about things without informing yourself?

http://www.nato.int/docu/review/topics/en/Missile-defence.htm

 

I thought NATO was dumb, but it isn't as dumb as I'd concluded - what's the big deal. Even if I only had the suspicion, it would hardly occur to me to look up 'Is NATO dumb or not?' would it?

 

It seems like you were under the impression that the NATO missile shield was only to protect against Russia.

If you think someone or something is dumb based on your faulty knowledge it is your failure. You could have informed yourself and then made the decision whether they were dumb. Instead you assume stuff and through those assumptions decide that they are dumb without even checking whether your assumptions were correct.

Some people...

 

There's a certain logic in that.

 

Yes, siting those missiles in Poland pointing into Russia and it's the Russians who are the aggressors now? What a joke-especially considering America's serial and seemingly obsessive addiction to aggression over the past 60 years! The Cuba missile crisis was the result of the US similarly siting missiles in Italy and Turkey, and the USSR responded in kind. Pissing-off Russia really isn't a good idea; and what the hell is the point anyway; provocation for the hell of it? As for these missiles being a supposed counter to Iran and North Korea I don't buy it, frankly. It has always been about Russia.

 

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Another case of war mongering fools taking orders from the banks and corporations. War is profits.

 

It is a purely defensive system.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_49635.htm

I welcome a missile shield and see no reason why we would not set up the best defensive capabilities possible.

Let us not forget that the USSR also threatened Europe. Why are you always so anti-American? It's way beyond rational which is weird when you seem rational about everything else.

 

Just take a look at America's record and you'll understand why it is America which you should be wary of, not Russia.
http://williamblum.org/chapters/rogue-state/united-states-bombings-of-other-countries
https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/us-interventions-in-latin-american-021/
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/20/mapped-the-7-governments-the-u-s-has-overthrown/
Are those not classic examples of a rogue state?

 

If NATO says its a purely defensive system that's good enough for me. Actually only a fool would believe it!

 

Are the Americans bombing NATO countries? Do you not believe any other country to be a possible threat? Or rogue actors?
Missile technology keeps evolving and gets ever more accessible. What is the problem of having a missile shield capable of protecting Europe from east and south?

Whether it was done as a NATO project or a purely European would not change anything. It is in my opinion both necessary and prudent.

 

Missile 'shields' won't protect anyone from a mass attack. It's naive to believe otherwise.

 

Conspiracies are fun, but have very little application in the real world.
I am pretty sure it would have been leaked by one of the 28 members if it had offensive capabilities. But that is just me.
Even if it can be used offensively... I see no reason why one would believe it would be used so. History speaks against it.

 

Who said anything about mass attack? As mentioned missile technology keeps evolving and gets easier for smaller groups to use. The missile defence is of course best for those situations. Single rogue missiles or smaller states attacking with missiles. If it comes to a mass attack we are discussing a completely different scenario where the missile shield is less relevant.

 

http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2016/05/1...war-with-russia-next-year-ex-nato-chief-says/

 

No, the Americans are bombing and invading anyone who doesn't follow the rules of The Master-and that includes legitimate democracies. You will also note that the fearless Bastion of Freedom prefers to only attack weak and defenceless nations with no capacity to fight back.

 

And what does that have to do with creating a missile shield to defend European nations from attack?
I do not see the relevance of American foreign policy in this discussion.

 

If only one hydrogen bomb get to us, all these preparations become worthless. Nobody has a clue how to proceed after nuclear exchange. Look at North Korea. Nobody loves it, but nobody can touch it militarily. Perhaps, peace in the world would benefit, if more countries would share nukes. Spreading and proliferation of nukes would be equal to spreading of democracy!

 

Why not to ask Russia to do this protection? It is easier and cheaper as the defence systems are already installed in Russia.