NATO to send 4,000 troops to border with Russia - report

But the Lightning II's key to survival is its own radar, the Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) installed in its nose. Conventional radar systems turn their gaze mechanically—imagine a dish spinning or a flat surface tilting to aim radar beams. Electronically steered radar does not move, but its beams can broadcast in different directions, thousands of times a second and across many frequencies. This agility allows AESA to map terrain and track hundreds of targets.

AESA is built to do more than scan—it can reach out to enemy radars and scramble their signals. A combination of radar and electromagnetic warning sensors alert an F-35 pilot to the threat of enemy radar; he can then dodge the threat or use the AESA to jam the signal, no matter what frequency the radar is transmitting.

And, if a missile is launched, the F-35 can track it with 360-degree infrared-sensor coverage and then, in some cases, overwhelm the missile's guidance system with the AESA. "Stealth works in conjunction with all those other techniques to make the F-35 what is probably the most survivable airplane of all time," O'Bryan says.

LINK.....http://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...-tech-vs-americas-stealth-warplanes-13506974/

AA

 

Keep in mind:

-US fighter jets have AESA radars(which can jam)
-Russia doesn't have AESA yet(until the PAK FA and MiG-35 come in service, while AESA is already of F-15s). They are still struggling to develop these chips.
-US is getting AESA dedicated jammers by 2020s, France and Sweden is already making GaN processing jammers, Russia is behind
-The Russians don't have sensor fusion on the fighters yet(until the PAK FA in service, meanwhile European Eurofighter Typhoons and Rafales have much more advanced tech)


Although exact stuff is classified, it's quite obvious Russia lacks the funding to support as powerful electronic infrastructure for the military.


There S-400 uses 92N6(or 2)E to lock on to targets, all the other radars are for support purposes(acquiring, warning, detection ) this includes all the fancy VHF ones, Nebo SVU, P-18, P-15, Vostek E, Nebo-M or whatever

 

[video=youtube;2BKW7G_dIxc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BKW7G_dIxc[/video]


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6.40

 

Fail. The F-15 has a longer range than the Su-30. It's EW is assisted by MALD-J which do not give away position. It's weapons are a lot better. It's radar is a lot better. Uh, no the F-15 is servicible till 2040s. Big fail.

The only the Su-30 and SU-35 has going is maneuvering. Which can be defeated by AIM-9X.

Yeah US Supremacy is threatened. You said it supremacy...but not destroyed. Only threatened.

 

Russia jamming and radar was more advanced then and it's more advanced now

 

Really.

Name on Russian fighter AESA?(that is in service)
Name one Russian jamming device that uses AESA or any sort of GaN tech?

 

Russian radar and jamming was more advance then and it's more advanced now. In 2018, they are getting photonic radar. This will make their radar even better and more compact.



Russia to test-launch ‘break-through’ photonic radar by 2018

Russia’s major electronic warfare systems producer is set to test a photonic radar station within three years. It is expected to open a new era of light and precise radar electronics for systems where weight is critical, such as drones and satellites.
The radio-photonic radar system of the future will be based on active radio-optical phased array (Russian abbreviation: ROFAR) technology being developed now by Radio-Electronic Technologies Concern (KRET), an integral part of the Rostech state corporation.

“The KRET has launched radio-photonic laboratory research to create ROFAR to be integrated on next generation radar systems, which is expected to deliver breakthrough performance characteristics to radiolocation stations,” Igor Nasenkov, deputy general director of KRET, told RIA Novosti during the Dubai Airshow 2015.

Work on ROFAR involves the creation of a specific laboratory complex within KRET. It will develop a universal technology to be later integrated into various next generation electronic systems.

Nasenkov specified that the 4.5-year ROFAR program will be fulfilled on time, adding a full-scale specimen is expected to be test-launched “by 2018.”

Photonic technology will significantly expand the capabilities of modern communication and radar systems, Nasenkov said. Photonic equipment is expected to be more than twice as light as current systems and vastly more precise.

Earlier this year KRET announced that radio-photonic antennas will have “unique stability” regards electromagnetic-frequency impulses, such as those caused by close-range lightning strikes, solar magnetic storms and EMP effects caused by nuclear explosions.

KRET believes that radio-photonic technology will pave the way for both military and civilian electronics of the future, as the tech will be applied in radio astronomy, radio detection and ranging, optical fiber and mobile communications and other practical fields.

For Russia, development of radio photonics is crucial and will mark a “huge scientific and technological breakthrough.”

The KRET was formed in 2009 and specializes in the development of military and civilian ground and airborne electronic systems.

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Watch the video.

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It does not use an AESA. The most advanced Russian fighter in service is the Irbis-E PESA radar on the Su-35. The video just shows multiple arrays.

 

There is none!

AA

 

I cannot believe that anyone could actually believe Russian Weapons Systems are more advanced than U.S. Systems.

And here is the thing....every time Russia does make a really good system....they can only afford to manufacture small numbers.

AA

 

Like I said. Russia had superior radar/jamming then, and it has superior radar/jamming now.

And it will only get better with photonic radar.

You and AA are trying to counter the experts and military officials and the facts with nothing.

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I cannot believe that there is someone so blindly biased. Even in the face of fact. You provide no credible source to counter anything


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...russia-can-now-outshoot-u-s-stealth-jets.html

 

India has SU-30MKI fighter jets that are unreliable as hell with engine failures. That is why they want Western Rafales and SaaB Gripen cooperation for the Tejas fighter.

 

What are you talking about?

You asked for a source and I provided it.

AA

 

How? US now has the APG-77v1 which can preform electronic attack with the AESA processing. Jammer is just an array of noise like a radar without receivers. While Russia doesn't even have AESA technology on fighters. Not to mention the US will make a bigger AESA jamming pod known as the Next Generation Jammer. The US has far more processing power.

Not to mention the Swedes now have GaN jammers, the first in the world.

Photonic radar is nothing more than a LIDAR/radar combo.

 

The F-35 has the processing ability of a bank of networked Cray Computers.

AA

 

Given the Russian Federation’s blatant efforts to destabilize Europe and present itself as a military threat to the West, an unsettling development revealed via The Daily Beast’s Dave Majumdar is only likely to make a dangerous situation in Eurasia worse.

The report revealed that the Pentagon is increasingly worried that the supremely maneuverable F-22’s long-range air-to-air missiles could be obsolete in fight against adversaries like Russia and China. They fear that this aircraft anti-air ordnance could be jammed, and American fighters would be almost entirely unable to neutralize enemy aircraft.


The problem is that many potential adversaries, such as the Chinese and the Russians, have developed advanced digital radio frequency memory (DRFM) jammers. These jammers, which effectively memorize an incoming radar signal and repeat it back to the sender, seriously hamper the performance of friendly radars.

Worse, these new jammers essentially blind the small radars found onboard air-to-air missiles like the Raytheon AIM-120 AMRAAM, which is the primary long-range weapon for all U.S. and most allied fighter planes.

That means it could take several missile shots to kill an enemy fighter, even for an advanced stealth aircraft like the Raptor. “While exact Pk [probability of kill] numbers are classified, let’s just say that I won’t be killing these guys one for one,” the senior Air Force official said. It’s the “same issue” for earlier American fighters like the F-15, F-16, or F/A-18.

Another Air Force official with experience on the stealthy new F-35 Joint Strike Fighter agreed. “AMRAAM’s had some great upgrades over the years, but at the end of the day, it’s old technology and wasn’t really designed with today’s significant [electronic attack] in mind,” this official said.

This is a problem that can be remedied, but, according to The Daily Beast’s sources, it would require the development and deployment of an entirely new set of air-to-air projectiles. That is an expensive and onerous prospect, and one which would take years to complete.

Majumdar’s report adds that Russia is developing its own revolutionary long-range weapon called the K-100 that can outperform anything in the American arsenal.

“Right now, the Defense Department—led by the Navy—is working to increase the range of the AIM-9X version of the Sidewinder by 60 percent to give the Pentagon’s fighter fleet some sort of counter to the jamming problem,” Majumdar’s report read. “But even with the extended reach, the modified Sidewinder won’t have anywhere close to the range of an AMRAAM.”

A few days ago, I took a cursory look at the condition which might rationally lead Russia to determine that it would be a wise course to militarily test NATO’s resolve to defend its member states in Eastern Europe. While this would probably be a miscalculation on Russia’s part, the error of this course may not be readily apparent to policy makers in the Kremlin. Miscalculations, as I wrote, have a habit of leading to conflagrating conflicts.

Nothing is more likely to lead a nation to miscalculate into a war than the logical belief that it could be won. The acknowledgement that Russia could neutralize American air-to-air missile systems is a disturbingly destabilizing development.



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Generation Fighter Aircraft (PAK FA) may feature the most accurate air-to-air missile system ever devised. The new system specifically targets the ability of skilled fighter pilots to engage in violent maneuvers to break missile locks in older-generation technology, based on a radar system held within the nose of the missile.

The new missile, pegged the K-77M, was described by Russia Today as an “absolute killer.” It notes that what sets the K-77M’s technology apart from its counterparts is the implementation of a “active phased array antenna (APAA)” which essentially solves the lock-on problem by addressing the radar’s “field of view” problem. Previously, this limitation allowed pilots to swing their jets out of the range of a tailing guided missile when in close proximity, evading the scope of the radar’s view. The K-77M essentially implements a solution similar to the Raytheon’s Patriot surface-to-air (SAM) missile system, according to Russia Today.

Russia Today explains the technology in more detail: “An active phased array antenna consists of a large number of cone-shaped cells installed under a transparent-to-radio-waves cap on the nose of the missile. Each cell receives only a part of the signal, but once digitally processed, the information from all cells is summarized into a ‘full picture,’ enabling the K-77M missile to immediately respond to sharp turns of the target, making interception practically inevitable.”

The development of this air-to-air missile — suspected to be the most accurate missile ever developed in its class — could be a major coup for Russia’s Detal design bureau, the developer. Russia Times notes that the chief engineer of the Detal design bureau hopes to begin manufacturing in 2015 after establishing a production facility. The economics of the missile appear to be favorable, even given the tall price-tag associated with APAA-equipped missile technology. Given the all-but-guaranteed accuracy of the system, Russia is likely to find several buyers. The K-77M could also render the PAK FA a more compelling purchase for buyers. The K-77M is reportedly compatible with previous generation Sukhoi fighters as well.

 

I hope Trump wins and pulls us out of NATO. Russia is not our enemy.

 

Gee.....Dave Majumdar.

A guy who has about as much experience and knowledge of such things as a 1st Grader!

AA

 

Using DRFM against the AMRAAM missile can easily defeated via midcourse update. Because the F-22's AESA radar is frequency hopping and can easily destroy DRFM(which relies of single frequency jamming)

I remember the actual military testing DRFM(not "military experts") against the F-22 in simulated exercise and it was useless.

Not to mention Russia lacks any sort of IIR like the Sidewinder Missile and is stuck with the R-73. Not to mention the F-22 can use it's ALR-94 to detect signals(such as jamming) and home on with a missile with it like the AMRAAM.

Stupid media

As for "photonic radar" is nothing but light receivers and laser modules that give visible light in arrays. It's nothing but LIDAR. Radio-photonics is nothing but radio waves combined with visible light.

AKA its nothing but American LIDAR with radio tracking. It's mainly for ground scanning due to something called CLOUDs.

 

The Russian K-77M is nothing compared to the European MDBA Meteor.

The R-77 series is nothing but a ripoff of the American AMRAAM. The Americans had the active radar homing technology long before the Russians. That is why the R-77 series is literally named the AMRAAMski.

 

Ad hominem

Wrong. Your making a lot of assumptions. The system will be light compact and extremely powerful. It will be mounted on PAKT50. And most likely their current Sam systems.

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Ad hominem





None of you have credibility to argue this. You cannot source any credible source to argue this.


Russia has superior SAMs, jamming, and Radar. Russian ICBMs are superior. Russian PAK t50 is superior to f35. Russian Armata is superior to Abram and so on.


We are drastically behind. Especially in the field of electronic warfare. I have defense experts supporting me. You have nothing but baseless bias


Unless you can cite a defence expert like I have, you will continue to be utterly wrong and your argumentspouse baseless

 

Wrong? Is that your favorite word. While we have actual knowledge of how systems work, you get your sources from stupid Russian controlled media, without these sources you have zero knowledge. Photonic radar uses light waves instead of radio waves. Which is very ineffective when present in a cloudy enviorment. That is why it is mainly use for ground mapping and not against moving targets. Let alone can they guide missiles. Why does the PAK FA still use normal radars. Why does PAK FA still want AESA radar when it can go for the "super powerful photonic radar"

Uh you do realize the AMRAAM came out before the R-77 series. AMRAAM were first to use active radar homing technology.

 

Yes you are wrong. Does the British missile have 0 reaction time? If so, prove it


The major innovation of the K-77M air-to-air missile is its guidance system, based on an active phased array antenna (APAA) of its own, Izvestia daily reports. With APAA onboard, the missile has zero reaction time to unexpected evolutions of the target, which means that once it locks on an aircraft, it would hit it no matter what aerial acrobatics the target would perform to shake off the inbound killer missile.
https://www.rt.com/news/t50-missile-advanced-guidance-643/

 

Russia has superior everything!

Doesn't even have fighter AESA
Doesn't even have jamming AESA
Doesn't have GaN technology
PAK FA is called not real Sensor fusion
Doesn't even have a stealth fighter yet(remember PAK FA has a RCS of only 0.1-1m2 while the F-22 has RCS of 0.0001m2)
Photonic radar is just LIDAR along with a radar....which it hasn't even developed yet.
ICBM superiority is pointless, because SLBMs are far more survivable. And NATO has more Nuclear submarines

 

You might want to look above.

So got any sources that say that US has better electronic warfare capabilities? SAM capabilities? Tanks? Let's compare specs of those tanks. Or we can compare specs of PAKT50 vs F35?

Your argumentsite are baseless