NATO to send 4,000 troops to border with Russia - report

Er yes. Since it's Ramjet, it can have three times capablity to outmaneuver a fighter trying to evade than a simple single post motor.

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Hilarious! The PAK FA is less stealthy than a F-117!

 

The PAK FA is a PIECE OF JUNK!!

LOL!!

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Keep in mind the PAK FA was a joint Indian-Russia project because Russia was so broke. India didn't even want to buy it. In fact they went for the HAL AMCA which is made with US engines.
http://www.business-standard.com/ar...-engine-for-gen-5-fighter-115121200004_1.html

Russia SU-30s are cheap yes, but the engines suck ass according to India. India would rather have a lot more Rafales and Tejas(which are made with Swedish technology)

 

If a pilot was given a choice of any existing fighter aircraft in the world to use to enter enemy territory....drop munitions and then fight it's way out against enemy aircraft they would chose and F-22.

If the F-22 was not on that list they would chose an F-35.

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I guess the answer is no. No proof.

PAKT50 has much better performance in virtually all fields. Including cost.

What did it cost for that inferior product? 3 something trillion?

 

Fallen and Baff

"Russia can kill the US and NATO and all their worthless economies! We have the best ICBMs in the world and can destroy everything! NATO is aggressive it it hurts my feelings! Even though they never attacked us in 60 years! Russia has da best tanks, jets, jammers, radars, SAMs, meh! Here is RT to prove it! And any assumtion from these sources is always right!"

"Russia Russia Russia!"

 

F22 and 35 are very good for going into weak countries that have weaker radar capability. It will be detected by Russian radar. Or so defense experts say.

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Wooopp! I like that bear.


So I'm guessing you have nothing else? No credible source to back up your baseless claims?

 

The T-50 has a major design flaw and is not stealthy at all.

It has been decided to redesign the T-50 and it is many years behind schedule.

Against an F-22 or F-35 a T-50 has no chance.

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The PAK FA has an official radar signature(RCS) of 0.1-1m2. The F-117 has around a 0.01m2 RCS.

And keep in mind the F-22 can reach RCS level low as 0.0001m2.
http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-pak-fa-poses-serious-challenge-to-us-2014-5

The PAK FA cost around $100 million. The F-35 cost around the same. And the F-22 cost a bit more around $150 million.

The PAK FA radar has less T/R modules than the F-35 and F-22. That means less processing power.

 

Plus the additional networking capability of U.S. Fighters with AWAC's and satellites as well as various radars allow them to have information on incoming enemy aircraft hundreds of miles in advance of the enemy even having a CLUE they are there.

Even in close quarters combat which the U.S. Aircraft do not do as they can kill enemy aircraft before the enemy knows they are there....but even in close a Russian pilot can see and F-22 but he cannot get a missile lock.

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Not to mention even in a dogfight, Americans have IIR seeker on the AIM-9X which can see through flares. Russians don't have IIR yet. They are stuck with simply IR dogfight missiles the R-73.

Here comes Fallen with another Russian sponsored source or a US Military "expert"

 

There simply is no comparison.

Russian fighters would be blown out of the sky never knowing who or what did it.

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I don't think Russia is going to be killing NATO's economies. It's got good trade links with eastern Europe. Particularly in the energy market. So they have normative relations as a rule.

Any old ICBM will do me.
I'd go with Russia on tanks and SAMS, no idea about the rest.
I'll go with a patriotic Yay for Britain on radars. Sov raid shot down Stealth bomber so theirs definitely works.
Yanks have it on Navy. I put China as no.2
Aeroplanes, I'd go America. Just for the numbers alone. Let alone all the money they spend on it.

NATO sucks mate. You can do better. Leave it and start again without all the numpties.

 

Not to mention the engineering and processing power to have LASERS WEAPONS on fighter jets by 2020.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/politics/us-air-force-laser-fighter-jet-weapons-research/

And Russians still think they can compete with Western engineering.

 

Yeah because it was within 10 miles where a pair of bincoulars can see the f-117. Modern Russian radars can only track the F-35 within 50 km.

 

Russian radar can detect f35. They will be detected and shot down in Russian air space. Unlike US, Russia didn't develop their fighter to attack. But to defend. It has no reason to be stealthy because it has no reason to sneak around. This was the major disagreement between India and Russia

They Russians have convinced the Indians though
Negotiations on co-development of an Indian version of the Sukhoi T-50 (Russian acronym PAKFA) had previously stalled, especially concerning the cost of substituting Indian content on the stealth fighter. But according to recent reports in the Russian media, progress was made during the visit to Moscow by Indian Prime Minister Narendra last December, although no announcement was made.


Each of the partners will invest $4 billion over the next seven years, including $2 billion each in the first year and the rest evenly distributed over the six years that follow. The total cost of development is now put at $10 billion, compared with $12 billion previously cited. The balance of $2 billion still required would be recouped from export sales, it is now reported.

United Aircraft (UAC) and Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) would be the industrial partners, with HAL having a workshare of at least 25 percent, and Bharat Electronics also playing a significant role. In similar fashion to the licensed production of the Su-30MKI for the Indian air force, the Indian companies will manage the replacement of Russian avionics, including mission and navigation computers; display and management systems; and self-protection systems. The result will be a considerably different aircraft from the PAKFA, and will effectively be the export version.

The Indian air force is seeking to procure 250 FGFAs. Earlier Indian sources estimated the unit production cost at $100 million, similar to that of the Su-30MKI.

Meanwhile, the acceptance process for the PAKFA has taken one year so far, preceded by five years of flight trials. The Russian air force expects to receive its first aircraft next year, and to have 55 in service by 2020. Initial production aircraft will be powered by a pair of NPO Saturn/UMPO AL-41F1 turbofans (also known as “Item 117&#8221. They will later be replaced by more powerful, reliable and efficient “Item 30” engines now in development by an industrial group supervised by the United Engine Corporation (Russian acronym ODK).

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Prove it. I had a defense expert say otherwise. They say that f35 isn't stealthy at all

 

Russian EW which is powerful enough to take down satellites. All guidance systems will be down as well as all radars. Communications, everything.

 

We have contingency plans for such matters.

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MOSCOW -- A group of Russian scientists from Tomsk, Yekaterinburg, Nizhny Novgorod and Moscow have developed a series of unique compact generators capable of producing high-energy pulses of hundreds and even thousands of megawatts.

This compares with the capacity of a major Soviet hydropower station on the Dnieper or an energy unit at a modern nuclear power plant. The new generators are sources of electromagnetic radiation rather than electricity. Their main feature is a capacity to produce enormous power in a matter of nanoseconds. The impulses can be generated with a very high frequency.

Vice President of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) Gennady Mesyats recalled that the first high-current electron accelerators were developed in the U.S.S.R. in the 1960s. Ten years later, Soviet scientists learnt to generate powerful microwave nanosecond pulses. The current generators have no counterparts in the world. In effect, Russian scientists have made a breakthrough in what is called relativist high-precision electronics.

The pulse is primarily of interest for fundamental research. Reporting these results to the RAS Presidium at the beginning of this year, scientists emphasized that sources with super radiation effects can be broadly used in long-range high-resolution impulse-based radiolocation and in studies of non-thermal impact of powerful electromagnetic fields on radio electronic components and different biological species.

Super-powerful pulse generators can test the reliability of radio electronic devices and the immunity of energy facilities to different impacts. They can imitate the interference caused by a lightning and even by a nuclear blast. Their tiny size and unique physical properties make their sphere of application extremely wide.

The electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is a product of a nuclear explosion. It puts out of action even those electronic control systems that have withstood the shockwave and reduces expensive smart weapons to scrap metal. There are different ways of generating electromagnetic pulses - for example, it can be produced by explosion-induced pressure on a magnetic field.


Physicist Andrei Sakharov was the first to propose using this principle in a bomb in the 1950s. Today, records in the size of an induced magnetic field, maximum current and properties of such "radiators" belong to Russian scientists. They surpass foreign counterparts by 10 times. Depending on what facilities the EMP is directed at, the damage radius can be from several hundred meters to kilometers. Without creating a shock wave and inflicting visible damage, it destroys all enemy electronic equipment. Moreover, unlike electronic countermeasures, electromagnetic weapons are capable of damaging radio electronic components even if they are switched off.

At present, the infrastructure and troops of many countries are stuffed with electronic equipment. It will be the main target for electromagnetic weapons. The destructive effect is produced by the high acceleration of the magnetic and electrical components of the EMP. They induce voltage changes ranging from 100 volts to 10,000 volts in circuit networks and terminals of radio electronic equipment. The ensuing massive sparking of cable jackets, their contact to frame and the ground, and breakdowns in connectors put the equipment out of action and lead to fires and explosions. To understand this effect better, it is enough to imagine what will happen to your TV-set if there is a power surge - it will simply melt.

 

Wrong. T50 cost 50 million.

 

by ROBERT BECKHUSEN
Just a short time ago, Russia planned to have 52 advanced T-50 stealth fighters by the end of the decade. At least, that was the plan.
Now the T-50 program appears to be in serious trouble, and Russia may cut back the fighters to a fraction of the planned strength.
The first sign something was very wrong appeared last month. On March 24. Yuri Borisov, Russia’s deputy defense minister for armaments, told the Kommersant newspaper that the military is drastically cutting its number of T-50s. Instead of 52 stealth fighters, Russia will build merely 12 of them.

LINK...https://warisboring.com/russia-s-stealth-fighter-is-in-serious-trouble-24ac3ef85227#.6b764mhc2

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Plasma stealth? Say whaa???

I'm guessing that's more top secret for them. It could explain why Russian PakT50 didn't focus of the "stealth design" that much.

 

Don't post old article. The article that I posted was from 2016.



http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n.../progress-reported-indian-version-sukhoi-t-50

 

Wow, you are a one man Russia PR organization...outfitted with the latest scary military propaganda and anti-American chit-chat!

 

Hate to tell you but Russia has only 5 T-50's and they are ALL GROUNDED due to a design flaw.

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