Netanyahu: Iran lied about not pursuing nuclear weapons

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  1. notme

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    Sure Iran is a danger....ISIS doesn't have any nukes and they are a danger. Iran has their filthy tentacles everywhere....a good chopping blade is what's needed for her!
     
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    A good chopping block should be made for Israel.
    It ethnic cleansed 92% of their own Arab population.
    It also ethnic cleanses Arabs across their border to enlarge their apartheid state.

    And so it has become the most condemned nation on the planet.


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    Nonsense....all the Arabs had to do was recognize Israel's right to exist....having failed to do that, they are now mired in a demise of their own doing. We should have absolutely no sympathy for them!
     
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    Jews don't get any rights to ethnic cleanse 92% of the Arabs, when Arab countries don't recognize Israel right to exist.
    In fact,.. it's rather justify to deny Israel the right to exist when it ethnic cleanses Arabs.
     
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    Come back when you can talk intelligently!
     
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    Yeah....now that sounds fair....if you want to jump on the 'reparations' bandwagon, it can go both ways!
     
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    While that is certainly within the realm of possibilities, Iran knows the consequences would be more severe than their attack, which is why it would never happen.
     
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    Actually, I do know, which is why the US government sent me to observe the operations of Soviet nuclear field forces during Druzba '86, and not you.

    Nuclear weapons require an infrastructure consisting of research, development, production, command, transport, storage, maintenance, security and communications, none of which are present in Iran, and, yes, I do have access to satellite imagery to make such assessments.
     
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    And all true.
     
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    Hopefully there are some Iranians in power who understand that suicide is not in their best interest....but those who insist on provoking Israel will undoubtedly find out the hard way!
     
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    How did those satellite images work out for the secret work being done inside the mountains of Iran?
     
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    Some Palestinians don't think that way at all just as not every Israeli Jew is prepared to reach an agreement with Palestinians who genuinely want to live in peace. I think reasonable people have to keep making the case that there's no way back to an earlier time. Palestinians have to abandon the infamous "three no's."
     
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    The more I think about this , the more I like it......good post!
     
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    There is no such thing as "Palestinians" ... they are illegal Bedouin settlers in the holy land.
     
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    I understood your post perfectly, you wish to partake of history revisionism just like the liar Bibi.

    Totally pointless argument, that Jewish Scum terrorists were over represented by middle eastern Jews at the end of the mandate means nothing, that you simply got your facts wrong you just ignored and tried to brush over.

    And there is not, it is the establishment of a Jewish State on others land that is the issue.

    Without the British there would be no Israel, simple as that. But ungrateful Jews hate to admit the simple historical fact.
     
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    There's a trap hidden in the process of estimating the population of Palestine before the British census of 1931, and comparing the figures before and after 1921.

    Historic Palestine stretched on both sides of the Jordan river. All censuses before 1921, when the British gifted the Hashemite Bedouins from the Arabian Peninsula with all the territory east of the Jordan river, include the population on both sides of Jordan. The consequent censuses include only the population on the western side of Jordan, but there are testimonies about migration form Transjordan to the western side. Such migration would have to be considered when comparing figures for Palestine on both sides of Jordan from before 1921 to figures for the western side of Jordan after 1921. To complicate matters further, all censuses before 1931 are highly unreliable. There's no way to tell how many people were in Palestine during the Ottoman and half the Mandate rule.

    There are, however, testimonies of travelers to Palestine during Ottoman rule. Palestine is described as barren, mostly uncultivated, almost empty land.

    This is what Tristram wrote in the 19th century:
    https://archive.org/stream/landofisraeljour00trisuoft#page/107/mode/1up

    Metawileh - twelver Shias (just like the present regime leaders in Iran).

    There's more:
    https://archive.org/stream/landofisraeljour00trisuoft#page/490/mode/1up

    Ghor - the Jordan valley.

    I don't have time now, I'll post again sometime later today.
     
  18. El Kabosh

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    That's true....besides that, "Palestine" is a mere geographic location....much like 'Death Valley' in California!
     
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    Allah will take care of his little terrorists, suicide bombers and deniers....paradise awaits!
     
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    "Jewish Scum terrorists"....heavy on the hatred, doncha think? It's little wonder Israel can't deal with people like this!
     
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    You know, I looked at a satellite map of the middle east yesterday, and from that view Israel is so tiny that when you try to put your cursor on it, which identifies which nation it is on, it was so hard to identify israel, given it miniscule size compared to the other nations in the middle east. I was actually shocked, and while I knew it was small, never did I think it was that tiny!! And this little piece of land that the jews now own, and where they created the most advanced nation in the middle east, has others in the middle east besides themselves! In hatred. But mostly from what I can tell, the Iranian shiites. The iranian theocracy. And of course its proxies and allies, hamas and hezbollah that are much closer to israel.

    It is hard for many americans to be against israel given who they are surrounded by, muslims, many of who have no business living in the 21st century. Anachronisms will always create problems, especially when they hail ideologically from the 7th or 8th century, with that mentality.

    Yet I can vaguely recall when israel and the US were trying to work out some deal with the palestinians and the palestinians always seem to turn them down. Like under arafat, in Camp David, with Carter. So whose fault is it, that palestinians are still where they are today? It is by their own choosing, is it not? Israel would have given things away, back then, but they would never have given away the store, and to expect that was absurdity and doomed to failure.

    IMO, the best move for Israel is to get people like netanyahoo OUT of office and power and those who think like he does. For his kind will always stand in the way of any future settlement and agreement. Am I wrong?
     
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    I don't know if getting rid of Netanyahu would remove the main stumbling block to any peace....and that is the Arab world's refusal to acknowledge Israel's right to exist....if they could finally get over that hump, perhaps magical things could happen!
     
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    Still...it is a bit perplexing that there are Americans who are so adamant in their hatred for Israel that they end up siding with a culture that abuse women, murders gays, is intolerant of other religions and is, as you allude, primitive in many ways!
     
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    Thought I would add this to your post:
    Lebanon
    Population: 6.007 million (2016) World Bank
    Area: 10,452 km²

    Israel
    Population: 8.547 million (2016) World Bank
    Area: 20,770 km²

    Gaza Strip
    Population: 1.816 million (2014)
    Area: 365 km²

    Much of the land of the other Arab countries are just uninhabitable desserts
     
  25. One Mind

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    Thanks for that! Do you have any idea of the number of palestinians on the west bank and outside of gaza, that is, within israel proper? I read once, long ago, that the total number of palestinians exceed the jewish population, if you use gaza and the west bank, the sum of all palestinians in that neck of the woods. But is this a fact? I could look it up, but thought perhaps that you had an idea, given you looked up population.

    My point would be, if indeed the jews are outnumbered, and palestinians were taken in as israeli citizens, with the right to vote, well, I think you can see where I am pointing?

    For me personally, I think Israel has the right to exist, but I cannot agree with people like Netanyahoo, and others who are of his ideology. These people are the ones allowing jews to create settlements in what might end up to be, Palestine, one day . And I just doubt Israel would ever require that these jews move out of their homes and settlements. So, to do this, to settle in prospective palestine, is making it harder and harder to ever get some kind of settlement of this problem. I think we can discern what the likes of netanyahoo are trying to do, and it helps to insure a settlement is never reached.

    Just my opinion based upon what I do know about this deal, this issue, but hardly and expert on it, so bear that in mind. For it is a full time job in retirement to attempt to keep up with our domestic problems and issues. Given that one cannot just accept without question what MSM and even FOX continually hocks as information. One sided information. Trying to live in the facts these days is more difficult than at any time in my own life of 76 years.

    But of course to be fully expected when our press by and large does not employ or adhere to journalistic standards, which basically has destroyed what journalists are supposed to do, give us the facts while speaking truth to power in a most non partisan manner. And then of course there is the hard fact that our CIA uses our Press, especially MSM, to condition americans with lies and disinfo, in the interest of someone, or some people, but not in the interest of 300 million plus average americans. If one wants to have even some connection to reality today, that is becoming more and more difficult as I do not see any reversal of what has happened to our Press.
     

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