New study refutes climate-change alarm

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  1. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that the earth will continue warming, right? Windmills, solar panels and batteries won't alter the universe.
     
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    No, Cobalt is mined by commercial mine companies that don't use kids. Coltan, in your phone is mined by artisanal miners and they use kids.
     
  3. Moi621

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    @Spooky

    3 million years ago would place it at the end of the
    Pliocene Epoch
    A time of mega fauna, huge plant eating mammals.
    I wonder about atmosphere methane, (fart gas) another green house gas.


    What could people kind have done to create such CO2 extremes back then?
    I refuse to feel so insignificant not to take responsibility for all peoples.


    Moi :oldman:




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  4. danielpalos

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    Sea rising is happening in the US; new Cities in more optimal locations is a solution.
     
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    LOL!!!!!! "Three million years ago".

    THERE WERE NO HUMANS ON EARTH THEN!! I wonder why.

    And also, how many years does your right wing fake news source say it took then for CO2 levels to go from 350 ppm to 410 ppm? Was it 15,000 years? Twenty thousand? Today it took about 30 years BECAUSE we are doing it.

    Do you think it's gonna be just fine for average global temperatures to increase by 7 degrees and for sea level to rise 65 feet? How long will it take for the mass extinction to pass and species to return?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what?

    So the sea rises, we will cope with it, we will have to eventually anyways so how about we deal with it instead of sticking our great grandkids with it?

    Why don't we be the greatest generation, the dutch hold back the sea just fine so I am sure we can also.

    And by the way, the people in Illinois will now have an average temperature of 77 degrees instead of 70.

    Oh the horror, how will they survive that?
     
  7. Kode

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    SHEESH!! THE EARLIEST HUMANS WE KNOW OF EMERGED 164,000 YEARS AGO!!!
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071017145252.htm

    Amazing. Just frigging amazing.
     
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    77 degrees? Wow. You really don't understand this, do you. If you think our current frequency and power of hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, and blizzards is increased, "you ain't seen nuttin yet".
     
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    Sorry to burst your bubble, but no.

    1. Breitbart is misreporting this study.

    2. You clearly don't understand how science works or what scientific consensus is.

    3. AGW is the scientific consensus.
     
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    it doesn't matter either way as nothing would get done regardless if true or not

    this is like arguing over if the earth was the center of the universe or not with Christian Conservatives in the past.. they will not change their minds

    the truth is, man is contributing to climate change... the question that remains is if that is a good thing or not
     
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    So just to get this straight.

    You are telling the forum that the earth has never heated up and all the ice melt before humans were here.
     
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    don't forget..... they believed in pizzagate too
     
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    I don't understand what you wrote. You're asking if the earth ever "heated up" and whether or not the polar ice caps have always existed and in their current form?
     
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    that is not the question, the question is.... is man contributing to climate change... the answer is yes

    so what we need to determine is the long term effects of that

    do you believe man could terraform other planets by releasing greenhouse gases, I think it's possible we could.. so how much of a effect our we having on our planet.. I have no clue, as I said before it could just delay the next ice age... we do not know all the variables yet

    science will have to solve this, man is not going to change their behaviors regardless
     
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    If you look at the normal axis of the Earth you will see that during ice ages it is skewed from what it would be.

    Us being in an ice age, which we are right now, is not the normal state of the earth.

    If you look at fossil records you will see that plant and animal life thrived during our times of a warmer climate.

    People think that right now is normal but it's not.

    It's normal to them because it's all they've known and they want to protect it.

    Hell, humans only evolved because of the warmer climate, we probably wouldn't have if those reptiles didn't find it warm enough to leave hibernation and come out of their ponds and lakes.
     
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    Ocean acidification is killing marine life. Unless we change our ways, most ocean life will be extinct by 2200.
     
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    So?

    Is that a justific+ation for continuing to be dependant on fossil fuels, and the economic and envirnomental costs involved when cleaner, cheaper and more flexible alternatives are emerging?
     
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    I don't think any reasonable person would disagree with that.

    It would be impossible for almost 7 billion people not to affect the climate in some way.
     
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    I believe we could do that but the amount of effort that would take is beyond imagination.

    Technically yes but the sheer amount of resources and power make that an impossibility.

    And thank you for being a reasonable person as always Fresh. :)

    I myself would love to see us expand into alternative energy, I think it's a wonderful thing and it has it's place and as technology increases then it may take a bigger role.

    I totally support that.

    I am not ready to drop our nuke plants or coal to go totally for it yet, the free market will work it in.

    The planet isn't going anywhere.

    We as a species will be inconvenienced but that is our own fault for building cities with pretty ocean views.
     
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    If cow farts are a problem, can you imagine the farts of dinosaurs and mastadonsand the gases they were emitting.We're lucky they planet still exists.
     
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    No. Just an observation. And we were thinking about getting a Corvette....with a V-8. ;-)
     
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    Only because our archeology is so far above the sea levels then.

    The best human archeology is 100' under today's sea level.
    Something akin to

    that between the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the years of the rise of the Sons of Aryas, there was an Age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world like blue mantles beneath the stars - Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia, Hyperborea, Zamora with its dark-haired women and towers of spider-haunted mystery, Zingara with its chivalry, Koth that bordered on the pastoral lands of Shem, Stygia with its shadow-guarded tombs, Hyrkania whose riders wore steel and silk and gold. But the proudest kingdom of the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west. etc. etc.
     
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    Breitbart says ..... so you and the earth's scientists are wrong. Someone posts a breitbart article that supposedly supports their beliefs but actually destroys those beliefs. What can one say to that. I read the article and it was clear that the scientific data is correct, accelerated buildup of CO2 is recent and well beyond normal. I can only conclude that believers of Breitbart either didn't read the report or simply chose their religion (Trumpism?) over fact.

    Continuing a debate with intellectually lazy or reckless people is not worth the effort. The facts are there for them to ignore; one might as well debate Plato's Apology with a two year old. The "ignore" button is a viable option against insanity.
     
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    Since the most recent trends in global warming coincide directly with the industrial revoltion, there seems to be little reason why the trend can't be slowed considerably.

    So, no, I do not realize that.

    But you're clearly down to your last excuse.
     
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    That's usually what happens.

    Who takes a trash blog like Breitbart (or Gateway Pundit, WND, or.....)seriously.
     
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