New study refutes climate-change alarm

Yes, it does.

Of course it does!

It proves the business model.

And since costs of both batteries and wind power is falling rapidly, it's only a matter of time before costs drop to the point that the model works at prices below that of power delivered the way it has been for the last century.

This is a breakthrough, not because of anything having to do with the environment, but to do with t he way electricity is generated and used.

And most importantly, how it is stored. THAT's what will drive renewables.

I'd be interested to know how much you pay per kwh, if you even know.

 

Poor people rejoice! I pay about 10c a KWH.

 

And you are obsessed with everyone else's

 

Well, Fox Noise tells them what to think, and Fox promoted that fake story about imaginary Iraqi drones delivering nuclear weapons to American cities. I remember taht very well.

And the rest of it as well.

And there were and are, other myths like birtherism, FEMA concentration camps, imaginary secret ISIS bases in Mexico poised for the envasion of the United States, and the terrorists spreading ebola.

Every one of these guys ran out and bought a generator for Y2K, and have a cabinet full of duct tape.

And every night, they're in front of their televisions waiting for the man in the box to tell them what to resent and be afraid of next.

 

Six point nine cents for me! All from wind.

As for costs:

"TEP estimates that energy from Oso Grande will cost the company less than 3 cents per kilowatt hour delivered to its transmission system. By comparison, coal-generated power costs TEP about 6 cents per kWh."

https://tucson.com/news/local/tucso...cle_5521cf2e-623c-5194-bf38-051f058c2977.html

 

I can agree on what you've posted about the inevitability of renewables. But you've lumped climate skeptics into a single category. Flat "denialism" isn't my position, Mine is that man's carbon footprint isn't as significant a factor as some insist. I'm in favor of reducing all emissions, not just carbon. I do not support foreign mandates or monetary penalties for excesses.

 

Gawwwwwwwwwd you're funny.

 

In 2008 it cost $2 billion to build a 600 MW coal plant.

http://schlissel-technical.com/docs/reports_35.pdf

In 2019 it is costing a paltry $370 million to install 247 MW wind power project.

In other words they could build 5+ wind power projects producing TWICE as much power as it cost for that single coal plant. And that does not factor in the ongoing cost of the coal.

Switching to renewables is making a lot of sense for Utilities.

 

World Nut Daily

Would not know science if it fell over it

Made a bet before I read the article based on the title alone - it was either going to be a straw man of GLOBAL proportions or cherry picked twaddle or both - and it was the latter

Really anyone doing tertiary study should not be fooled by straw men

 

They might not have gotten right what the scientists are actually saying about man's contributions to the earth's co2 levels, but at least they got it half right and admitted that co2 is the cause for higher global temperatures, and higher ocean levels. That's progress

 

In that case you should be grateful that SA is doing the research into cheaper alternatives for you. When your infrastructure fails, and it will as it is ageing rapidlyl, Americans will be paying waaaaay more.

 

Are you sure that it is all from wind? How do you know?

 

John Nolte works for:


Researchers at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research published their findings in the journal Science Advances.

No.

Please stop with the cheap shots of who wrote the article while ignoring where the data actually came from.

 

Naw, you're confusing the minerals used in your phone with those in batteries. Your phone has the minerals mined at times by kids. Batteries use minerals mined by large commercial enterprises.
Just a friendly FYI.

 

You do realize climate change has been happening since before humans, right?

 

I agree with the switch in logical and cost effective format. However, dont dig into my pocket and whisper in my ear that your justification is to save me.

 

Nonsense.

I pay 12 cents a KWh and live in a state with several nuclear reactors, the local one was just recertified for another 50 years.

 

Another one incapable of comprehension.

WND nor Breitbart wrote the study.

Please read.

 

No, he is who I referred to in my first post, both the studies conclude the opposite of his opinion on them. Its hard to see that if you don't read the reference studies he is using, he admits that the climate is changing; but refutes humans have a factor in it. He is not a researcher.

 

Do you realize that you have just acknowledged that you are living in the same state as a nuclear disaster waiting to happen?

That nuclear equipment was NEVER DESIGNED to last that long.

 

WND and Breitbart LIED about the study!

 

That's good to know.

 

They didn't write the study, but they did misreport what the study's conclusion was.

 

The nuclear plant up the river from me, Three Mile Island, will shut down its remaining operating reactor this year.

BTW, I pay just a little over half what you pay, and you can lease solar panels at an effectively lower rate than you are paying now (and own the asset at the end of the lease).

 

Brightfart and WingnutDaily misrepresent things!!!! How could that possibly be!