NM Militia Detains 300 Illegals at Border

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  1. Capt Nice

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    I'm glad for you that things appear to have gone smoothly. We wouldn't have what truly has turned into a crisis if trump hadn't taken intentional steps to make coming here much more difficult than it was before he became president. Say hello to your wife for me. My maternal Great Grandmother was also Cherokee.
     
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    A very good answer for altmiddle. The idiot's who keep yelling "well regulated" about the 2A have never read a history book. The folks who refused to sign the Constitution till the Bill.of Rights was explicitly spelled out were ADAMENTLY against a standing army. The had seen how that worked out for the commoners in jolly old England.
    Get this through your head:
    They refused to become signatory to the Constitution until their rights were spelled out........including a right to speak about anything and anybody they pleased, AND the right to retain the capabilities to enforce their wishes, should those in high office seek to expand their power.
    They trusted no one, because they had just had to leave their homeland, settle in a different continent , and then by God shoot the folks who tried to keep them in subservience.
    No, they didn't want to keep their rifle just to hunt with.
     
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    There is no such Thing as well regulated militia of Individuals in our Republic.

    And, well regulated must be prescribed by Congress for the militia of the United States.

    All right wing gun lovers do, is appeal to ignorance of the law and blame less fortunate illegals.
     
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    You are badly misinformed.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

    Less fortunate illegals? Are bank robbers also less fortunate. They're trying to do the same thing, improve the lives of their families.
     
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    You are profoundly incorrect.
     
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    Sunland Park is about 40 miles from me, my techs work in that city, and one of my offices is about 12 miles away. Once these people crossed our border illegally, then what were they going to do? Was it their expectation that American taxpayers would feed, clothe and house them? If so, why would we? If we didn't do those things then they'd have to resort to crime in order to survive.

    Anyone caught crossing our border illegally should be put be immediately deported and put on a list of people who will never be allowed to enter our country - ever!

    We owe them nothing.
     
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    They are doing what our government is required to do, but due to corruption, they fail to do. That is precisely why there is a 2nd amendment. We cannot always rely on "government" to protect us. If Government gets out of bounds....we protect ourselves whether from government itself or from foreign invaders.
     
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    i gainsay your contention.
     
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    Whatever, in Heller the SCOTUS confirmed an individual right to bear arms, the same right the patriots in the OP used.
     
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    Judicial activism that should be overturned due to legal error. There can be no such Thing as a well regulated militia of Individuals of the People in our Republic. It is merely right wing fantasy.

    And, Illinois has its own Constitution that specifically lays claim to its sovereign and traditional, police power of the State.

    Heller had nothing to do with the security of the free State of Illinois. It must fall under natural law,
     
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    We don't blame the illegals. We blame weak minded people like you for the pussification of this country.

    At least we know when the civil war starts who will be winning it.

    And it won't be the bleeding heart leftists.
     
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    I don't think I've ever read so much BS from a single source. But I'm entertained! :roflol:
     
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    Looks like the yahoo home grown terrorist Adolfs winsomely supported by the unwashed PF jockstraps are goin' down.

     
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    Amazing, the left ignores the clear meaning of the 2A yet finds fantasy rights for a mother to murder her child and deviants to marry.

    "On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court affirmed by a vote of 5 to 4 the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in Heller v. District of Columbia.[4][5] The Supreme Court struck down provisions of the Firearms Control Regulations Act of 1975 as unconstitutional, determined that handguns are "arms" for the purposes of the Second Amendment, found that the Regulations Act was an unconstitutional ban, and struck down the portion of the Regulations Act that requires all firearms including rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock". Prior to this decision the Firearms Control Regulation Act of 1975 also restricted residents from owning handguns except for those registered prior to 1975.

    The majority opinion, written by Justice Antonin Scalia, and the primary dissenting opinion, written by Justice John Paul Stevens, are considered examples of the application of originalism in practice." Wikipedia

    The only alternative to originalism is a nine-person court dictatorship. I doubt this wise decision will be overturned given the wonderful SCOTUS Trump has created. Anyone know how Ginsburg is feeling today?

    Apparently the Founders were part of this right wing fantasy, LOL. See https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/gun-quotations-founding-fathers

    Maybe I missed something, but what does IL have to do with this conversation?

    The group involved in the OP incident are true heirs of the patriots at Lexington and Concord.
     
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    only illegals don't care about the law,
     
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    the right wing likes to make up their own facts. in right wing fantasy, they are Always right.
     
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    Our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State not natural rights.

    The Illinois Constitution specifically lays claim to its sovereign police power of a free State concerning the keeping and bear of Arms.

    Since it is about natural rights not the militia; it should have resolved according to State law. The police power of a State must address this civil liberty since it can Only become a federal issue via Due Process as a traditional police power of a State not any militia act.
     
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    What does IL have to do with this conversation? Luckily I left IL for a free state long ago. State laws don't override the Constitution. IL got their rear handed to them here:

    https://www.britannica.com/event/McDonald-v-City-of-Chicago
     
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    Where are they being charged with false restraint, and where are they restraining anyone? They aren't.
     
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    Anytime the feds and staties decide to, they can do so. Right now deals are being made.
     
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    Our Second Amendment expressly declares what is necessary to the security of a free State and it is not the unorganized militia.
     
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    They will have a hard time winning that conviction. You don't have a great track record, didn't you say Trump was guilty of collusion?
     
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    The conviction is a slam dunk.

    May track record is far better than yours, Paul7. :)
     

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