North Carolina Pastor calls for the deaths of gays and lesbians

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  1. expatriate

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    So...Paul is open to interpretation....

    got it.
     
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    That the end had already come? That's a little weird. Care to give an example?
     
  3. Think for myself

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    Kudos to those who are are standing up to the hatred, bigotry, and ignorance being preached in this church.



    http://www.shelbystar.com/news/protest-64452-residents-anti.html

    SHELBY — Cleveland County residents will be among hundreds of people in Newton on Sunday protesting a Baptist minister who advocated confining gays and lesbians inside an electric fence so they would die out.

    During a May sermon at Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, Pastor Charles Worley advocated putting gays and lesbians in concentration camps for extermination.

    “Build a great big, large fence, 50 or 100 miles long,” Worley said in a video posted on YouTube. “Put all the lesbians in there and fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with … the homosexuals, and have that fence electrified till they can’t get out. Feed ‘em, and you know what? In a few years, they’ll die out. Do you know why? They can’t reproduce.”

    Worley’s comments have since gained attention from national media outlets. Civil rights groups demanded an apology from Worley. A YouTube video of his sermon has more than 30,000 hits.

    Worley’s sermon came just days after North Carolina passed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage in the state. In Cleveland County, the measure passed overwhelmingly with 81 percent voting in favor of the amendment. Catawba County, where Worley’s church is located, passed the measure with 74 percent of voters supporting the constitutional ban.

    ‘Acceptance and love, not hate’

    Worley’s anti-gay message also caught the attention of several Cleveland County residents. They’ll be among a caravan of people from Gaston County, Asheville and Greensboro who will travel to Catawba County for a peaceful protest of Worley’s comments.

    Jeff Ames of Lawndale helped organize the Cleveland County caravan. He’s a member of Neighbors for Equality, the Boiling Springs group that fought to defeat the marriage amendment and is now working to repeal it.

    “Personally, I just think it’s atrocious,” Ames said. “(Worley) is the leader of his church, and it just didn’t seem very Christian the way he spoke.”

    Ames and a group of county residents will leave from the Stagecoach Market in Lawndale at 9 a.m. on Sunday. Anyone who wants to participate in the peaceful protest is welcome to join, Ames said.

    Catawba County Sheriff Coy Reid said he anticipates 500 to 2,000 people to gather in Newton for the event. Catawba County government leaders granted protesters the right to assemble on the grounds of the county government building Sunday from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.

    This is the first time Catawba County has hosted an event like Sunday’s protest, Reid said.

    According to Reid, the Catawba County Sheriff’s Office will have “many, many, many” law enforcement officers on the scene to make sure the protest continues smoothly.

    Collyn Warner, a Cleveland County resident and a Neighbors for Equality co-founder, said the group is designing T-shirts to wear for the protest and carrying small, hand-held signs.

    “We really want to send a message of love and hope to those in that congregation and that community that there is acceptance and love, not hate for people,” Warner said.
     
  4. Durandal

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    Straight marriage and same sex marriage are like bikini tops and bras. The exact same thing, but only one is allowed in public-Anonymous

    :thumbsup: I like that.

    And this pastor is typical of conservative thinking - can't handle diversity or change.
     
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    Regardless of anything else his comments are just assinine. Gays won't die out as long as straight parents keep having them.
     
  6. expatriate

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    precisely. every gay person has at least one straight parent.
     
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    Not necessarily. They might have two bisexual parents, or they might be the offspring of a lesbian and a gay man. Most gay people have at least one straight parent, but it's certainly not every gay person.
     
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    I am curious... are there any studies that show that the children of two gay individuals are any more (or less) likely to become gay themselves?
     
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    There are very few studies of gay parents and the children they raise, period. I'm not aware of anything credible showing that children raised by gay parents are significantly more or less likely to "become gay". The few studies that exist suggest that most children of gay parents wind up heterosexual - just like most children of straight parents.

    Your question implies that orientation is highly malleable and that parents of same-sex orientation would be able to influence (whether knowingly or unknowingly) the orientation of a child in their care. I'm not prepared to accept that assumption. We don't know for certain how orientation arises, but we do know that no one has hit on a demonstrably reliable formula for making a child become gay or preventing them from becoming gay.
     
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    actually, my question was aimed at the "nature" piece and not the "nurture" one. If a lesbian woman got artificially inseminated by the sperm from a gay man, would THAT child be more likely to be homosexual simply by the genetics of the parents?
     
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    Obviously, that "Christian" is sexually insecure, likely has homosexual panic fears, and seeks to protect himself by making these hate campaigns.
     
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    Dishonest thread premise is dishonest. He advocated segregation. Nowhere in that video did he say anything about killing anyone. He even went so far as to talk about "dropping food" to ensure that they wouldn't starve. You can hate his position all you want, but at least have the integrity to represent it honestly.
     
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    You're right: he didn't want to kill them all at once. . .he just wanted to sent all gay people to an "concentration camp", lesbians in one, gay men in another. . .and make "food drops" while waiting for them to die.

    What a wonderful Christian concept!
     
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    Do you believe that today's gays and lesbians received the "gay gene" from their heterosexual parents?
     
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    I would imagine so... I just wonder if both parents having the gene would increase the probability of passing it on.
     
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    I think the most honest answer to that question is that we don't know, because it hasn't been studied. This is where I trot out my reminder that genetics isn't simple. The simple model of inheritance that many of us learned at school barely scratches the surface.
     
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    Geneticists have not discovered a "gay gene". It's not like a recessive trait where a child of gay parents has a 1 in 4 chance of being gay. There is more to genetics than this. A LOT more.
     
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    How would you intrepret his 1978 sermon in which he rails in anger at gays and lesbians gaining public support, and reminds us that 40 years ago they would have been hung from a White Oak tree?

    You are also missing the point: the end goal, while not immediate extermination was still the eventual elimination of homosexuality. I don't find that any less offensive, quite frankly.
     
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    Sounds like this preacher is a child molestor over compensating for his sins.
     

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