Obama says Vietnam was a misunderstanding, >>mod edit<<

total misread of history.

Exactly what form did st.ronnie's pressure take?

the pressure of Afghanistan? Or the pressure of not enough toilet paper to go around?

 

Though there were other factors, Reagan was the only leader who went in for the kill. At the very beginning of this unnecessary crisis, Truman could have minimized the Soviet Union when we had the monopoly on the atomic bomb, but he let them grow because he needed a viable threat to make trillions for the MI Complex he %hored for.

 

This entire tangent of debate, about who served, and who didn't, is really stupid. Makes certain posters look really stupid, just by making posts exactly like yours..

 

I'll give you that one.

Charlie Wilson was a liberal Democrat.

But it was Reagan who put medium range missiles in to Europe over the violent objections of the liberals and he is the one who rebuilt our military including Star Wars that that the Soviets could not match.

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I gave Truman his due.

It is the lib children and grandchildren of the Trueman era who shirked their duty.

 

Europe? Don't make me laugh. By the 80's the Soviet Union was a brittle ghost of its former military power. They wouldn't have tried to take over Europe even if they had actually wanted too and we hadn't put up those missiles. They couldn't even hold their (*)(*)(*)(*) together in the armpit of the Middle East. Let alone a campaign in central Europe, and they knew that.

 

I think its pretty cute how you leftys are doing everything in your power to blame Bush, for Obamas stupidity.....

Can any lefty explain how the US Constitution could inspire a communist to murder 500,000 people?

 

That is not even close to accurate.

The Soviets had a very dangerous military although their economy was falling apart trying to maintain it.

But that was because Reagan and conservatives in the West stubbornly refused to accept an inevitable communist takeover of the world.

 

Are you sure its not a muslim conquest of the world?

 

Libs thought it would be communism back in the 80's.

Most of them were as shocked as the Bolsheviks were when the Soviet Union fell.

But now they think they can control Islam after it helps them destroy Christianity.

So they do not accept the notion of an inevitable rule by Allah and Sharia law.

 

Skipped to the last page, boy this thread took an ugly turn. Still, the Soviet Constitution was modeled after ours, as was the Vietnamese. In the wording. Just like every document ever written it will be interpreted by those that are in power to do so. We see this a lot, look at the bible for instance. Old Testament is used by three major religions, see any difference?

 

WTF??

Um no, not even close. on either count.

The old testament is only used by one religion, Judaism. Its packaged with the bible for a reason.

 

Again we see the lack of education in this country, or, as in this case, the lack of wanting an education

 

Bush flying the F-102 supersonic all weather interceptor out over the Gulf of Mexico

Too young, a student, a father and by 1967 too old.

Didn't pass physical but then has never run for office let alone be elected.

Medical deferments

 

Most men even in the service didn't go to Viet Nam, yet when he volunteered for the TANG the unit he volunteered for was serving in Viet Nam and not only that flying one of the most dangerous aircraft to fly the US every had.

False he met all the requirements and he was an officer he didn't have a drill sergeant.

 

It is used by Christianity and Islam. Where do you think those hate quotes on homosexuality come from or views on marriages. Yes, it is a part of Christianity's bible.

 

He was obsessed with his Daddy, who flew dangerous mission in WWII. Junior knew he had choked by only doing that in his imagination while in the Heir Guard. But of course, New Age America will never understand the effects of cowardice. I can never forget that when I was 13, I purposely ran out of bounds with a kickoff return "so I wouldn't fumble." Really, I was afraid of being tackled.

 

And your plan to remove Saddam and his requiem was what?

 

You really do not know any history at all do ya. Ho Chi Minh, came to the US First to get help, we turned him down, that is when he turned to our enemies for help. Invading Vietnam was a huge mistake, just in case you missed that fact and in the end my fellow soldiers died and were maimed for apsolutely nothing more than serving our Nation.

 

Ahhh, we didn't invade Viet Nam. Ho Chi Minh invaded South Vietnam and we already knew what he was doing killing off millions in his reeducation camps so of course we weren't going to help him establish and support his brutal oppressive communist government.

 

True we were invited by the puppet government we ran, sorry my mistake.

 

yeah, they did not have WMD's

 

If by refused to accept you mean arming a group that 2 decades later would see us as sworn enemies, sold arms to religious fanatics, and armed contras that raped nuns and killed thousands of children then okay...

 

Looking back on it, Saddam was a horrible person, but leaving him alone would have been for the best. Because of out intervention the religious fanatics have gotten a power base within the country, there is war between the Shia and Sunni's about to break out at any time, and ten times the number of people Saddam killed during his several decades in power are now dead in one without him.

If we were going to do something about him it should have been during th first gulf war. Not 15 years later.

 

Where did you hear this from?

 

If that's how you feel about it we also supported the biggest murderer of the 20h Century Joseph Stalin.

We don't always get to choose our friends and certainly not our enemies.