Officer Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket

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  1. Bluesguy

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    He had already been beaten having his eye socket fractured and he only has to fear further serious bodily injury, you are making the same fallacious statements as you did in the Zimmerman case. And six shots instead of five is a strawman argument, it is irrelevant and immaterial.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    No that would be MSNBC. If you are not listening to FOX on this issue then you are getting a bias'd view.
     
  3. Nunya D.

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    His head was probably in extreme pain and could not see well from the blown out orbital socket.....the behemoth that just beat him was charging at him and closing fast....how many shots would be "acceptable"? Is this a "well, it is your fault the first 4 only hit him in the arm" situation? In reality, he only fired two shots that might have made an difference. The last shot certainly made a difference.
     
  4. Yosh Shmenge

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    Brown "needed" to be shot as many times as necessary to stop the charge of this hulking, criminally minded teenager.
    I'm sure the broken eye socket that Brown already inflicted on Wilson (allegedly) didn't help his aim and the number and location of most of the shots
    indicates an attempt to get Brown to simply stop his charge.
    But as you mention, the last shot was intended to definitely stop what the first four couldn't.
     
  5. notme

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    I listen to neither. I'm Dutch.

    And even I know, as a Dutchman, that FoxNews has bend the news too often in the past.
    I am not the one to blame for their reputation means that using them as a source is dismissable.
     
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    I was on the net this morning that Brown's buddy recanted his original story and admitted that Brown attacked Wilson. I didn't get a link because I thought that someone would have already posted a thread in here.

    The idea that a police officer or any citizen having been attacked and suffered the permanent injury that Wilson will have to live with should count his shots is the lames talking point in this whole discussion.

    I think that it was Wilson's duty as an officer of the law to further risk his life to stop Brown my any means necessary after Brown attacked an officer of the law and tried to get his gun.

    Any citizen of this country how is attacked the way Wilson saw, some saying that his left eyes was out of the fractured socket, should have the right to set out of their vehicle and shoot the attacker in the back or run them down with their vehicle and them shoot them in the head. In fact it should be the obligation of all men to kill people like brown once their true nature is without doubt.

    Wilson did his duty to himself, his community and our country.

    It is reported that the last shot went into the top of Brown's head so the liberal horde claims that it was because Brown was already down when the last shot was fired. Clearing Wilson was shooting as fast as he could shoot and the eye shot at least knock the thug unconscious causing him to fall forward as the last shot that hit Brown hit the top of his head.

    I seriously doubt that Wilson was putting any of those shot where he wanted them. His life was on the line and I expect that he really wanted the first shot to hit Brown's center mass and stop him. Because we don't know Wilson we don't know if he wanted to kill brown with any of those shots but in my opinion he had every right that men are granted by God to kill Brown as he lay on the ground if he wanted to.

    I am glad that Brown is dead.
     
  7. Nunya D.

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    I know where you are coming from. Someone from the Netherlands lied to me once so that just proved that everything said by the Dutch is a lie.

    Well, not really and I'm not trying to offend you. I have high respect for the Dutch people.

    My point is just because some things may not have been exactly truthful from Fox, that is not cause to outright dismiss everything from them. If we all did that, every media outlet would be outright dismisses as they all are untruthful at times. Fox is not any more untruthful then any other media outlet. Of course, some people would disagree with this, but their basis of this belief is probably more partisan related then reality.
     
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    One thing I no for sure after 8 years of Bush, something can be 'official' and still be dead wrong. Seeing it with my own eyes makes it official to me. And who knows, maybe the chief popped Wilson in the eye before the sent him to see the doc as a favor.
     
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    The hospital doesn't have to have anything to do with it. Maybe the chief said "Hey, we need a story. How 'bout I pop you in the eye to make you look good." So much time went by anything could have happened.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    So in other words you don't know what you are talking about. I do, I listen to both. If you want a fair and balance view of the situation you will get it on FOX not the MSM here. It is MSNBC that is being sued for editing the 911 call of Zimmerman in order to make it look like he was racist.
     
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    Does that really seem like the most logical and/or reasonable explanation to you?
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    Well yes they do since you are implying they are going to lie about this. You don know that since this is a predominately black area the likelihood is that the hospital has lots of blacks working there including doctors and administrators, so why would they lie about the injuries?

    Your baseless smears of the officers involved notwithstanding in it's foolishness. "Yeah let me risk losing my eye and having serious brain damage".

    Maybe George Zimmerman arrived and showed him how to bang his head against the concrete to cause his own injury or how to run into a tree to cause it.

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    It's called desperation.

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    Why would the police chief risk going to prison?
     
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    Inasmuch as Fox News was set up to deliver biased news to the conservative faithful, it would seem that if you ARE listening to them, the ONLY thing you're getting is a biased view.

    Anyway, did anyone else see this story, and particularly the video with it? Sure doesn't look like the officer was knocked loopy or anything close to it and calls into question all of the noise on the right (apologies if it was posted earlier).
     
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    It has been brought up and I've mentioned a few times that it has yet to be substantiated. The pieces do fit, though. His chief said from the beginning his face was injured and taken to the hospital. It stands to reason, but still not official.
     
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    yes, so easy to say when THEIR life was not endangered



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    That video recording was taken from quite a distance. No details of the mans face can be discerned one way or the other.'

    It is not uncommon at all for people to be hurt and not experience pain for some time after or show evidence of injury.

    I agree with much of what you are saying we need to wait until the end of the investigation and the release of the evidence.

    My one point of disagreement is that while it is not proven with medical records the officers injuries seem to be legitimate and backed up by too many people to make it a deliberate lie.
     
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    I would think that, given the situation there, if this was true, the police chief would have at least made a statement regarding the officer's condition. Also, I remember Jason Hayward of the Atlanta Braves being hit in the face with a fastball last year, hard enough to break to break his jaw. He was down for the count and missed a most of a season. I just don't see that officer, with the purported injury that is claimed, shown walking around the scene, apparently in full control of his balance and able to function.
     
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    Actually both sides as they are doing here as opposed to the MSM.
     
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    Wasn't the suit dismissed? Since Zimmerman couldn't outright prove MSN engaged in a slander campaign.
     
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    I do not think the video calls into question much at all.

    PEople can recover their senses very quickly from being " knocked Loopy "

    We do not know how bad the injuries were to officer wilson but he was taken to the hospital and apparently not just for a routine examination.

    Most of the real evidence avialable so far is once again disputing the vast and shrill noise from the left and not from the right for example the second autopsy from Dr. Baden. Far more damaging to Jackson the race baiters and the accusers of wilson than to the officer himself.
     
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    I wouldn't expect them to release his condition right away and comparing a punch or multiple to a fastball is apples and baseballs.
     
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    Are you sure the officer in the video was the one that shot MB? I watched it and see nothing to indicate that it was. Sure, it was someone in a police uniform, but may or may not have been Wilson.
     
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    Why have you concluded that this is Darren Wilson? I don't see a reason to believe it is.
     
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    Gotta tell ya, I don't believe much of what comes out as 'official' these days. And 'logical' and 'reasonable' is still speculative.

    But I'll give you a 40% probability that what we have heard so far is the truth.
     
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    Last I heard he was appealing
     

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