Officer Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when was this determined and why released now, and not in the early days?

    simple things like this would explain why the officer was pissed and started shooting right away, most people would of if they had a gun, cop or civilian... kill or be killed is the frame of mind I am sure the cop was in.....


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    Seriously it's being ignored just like a lot of the information that's now coming out is! These hoodlums don't want justice, they want a lynching so they can say "see white cops shoot poor innocent black kids when they're surrendering". Megan Kelly (yes I know that wicked evil Fox News) was great today. She told it like it was right up to the black preacher who had been on the officer's side until he sat down and talked to Sharpton and then changed sides immediately! All these people are who are rioting and looting are hoodlums out to get something for nothing! IF it were a white kid shot by a black cop...NOTHING would be done! If it were a black kid shot by a black cop...NOTHING would be done! But because it was a black young adult shot by a WHITE cop...they are rioting and looting and defying curfews and then complain when they get arrested. And the media doesn't help either because I believe without the media there giving them the attention...this would all settle down. I'm beginning to think the cops, EMT's, firefighters etc should just strike and leave town. Let these people police themselves and tend to their injured. Oh and the government should give the shop owners who's stores and means of livelihood that were vandalized and burned enough money to relocate and settle somewhere far away! Let these hoodlums see what happens when they get what they want. And now according to the news they are simply becoming a lynch mob with the governor of MI leading the pack!
     
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    Let's stand you up and let a 6'4" 300 pound man hit you in the face and see if you call it a fabrication then!
     
  5. momrobare

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    You think he ought to be obese! He looks fit enough to run, unlike some police I've seen.
     
  6. momrobare

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    Where is the pic of this scan? As an RN...I'm curious to see it. Thanks.
     
  7. TBryant

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    Which includes Wilsons story in a more comprehensible form than any other I could find. It also has the majority of the eyewitnesses version of the account, and the legal obstacles the officer has to prove his action as justifiable.
     
  8. TBryant

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    According to his version of the story:

    The car door was open as I understand the article. It wouldn't open from the outside. Most police cars have speakers now, so there is no big reason to open a window.

    I find his story credible. But instead of directly confronting two large men he should have kept them under surveillance and called for backup. It might have caused him a bit of embarrassment back at the station (especially if they eluded him) but if would have been a better outcome than what has happened.
     
  9. Mac-7

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    Why would any white cop want to work in a racist black city like ferguson anyway?

    Whites can find jobs in better places where the residents do not want to kill the cops and each other.
     
  10. JavisBeason

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    I think it was trained reaction....

    Ever watch a guy in UFC get knocked out, but still keep fighting..... he's still trying to secure a leg.... it's just instinct.

    there was a baseball player the other day that took a line drive off the temple at about 140.... He was moving around, actually trying to find the ball... but the lights were definately out.... Trainers had to come physically set him down to prevent him from walking. It was very scary looking.

    I think this officer's training saved his life. No question, his bell was rung.... probably very watery eyed (in his working eye) as he aimed and shot

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    he's young.... I'm sure a place like Ferguson is a stepping stone in a career. Why do teachers want to teach at inner city schools? Same thing... Fresh out of college, that was the only job I could get because all the better schools were taken by those who had previously survived their tour of duty at schools like mine.
     
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    Still holding onto the titanic a half mile down eh ?
     
  12. Oldyoungin

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    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...-investigation-st-louis-police-killing-4.html

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    No, I dont think so... that could lead to stray shots and innocents getting hit. I doubt he did that on purpose.
     
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    Hindsight is 20/20 .
     
  14. momrobare

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    More like holding on to the fact that there was no iceberg I'd say. :)
     
  15. Gatewood

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    Yes, it's sad but true, and the entire nation is watching the end results of liberalism play out night after night after night . . . and are rethinking WHY they have been foolish enough to continue tossing their votes and money towards the nation's political Left. Oh and as aspects of the truth finally begin floating to the surface they can be under no illusion that the left-tilted mainstream media did not arrive with a pernicious leftwing agenda engaged to gin up a false racial meme with no regard whatsoever to reality.

    The Left sort of ripped aside the tatters of the mask that they have been fronting to the rest of the world to explain WHY they pushed so very, very hard to get a first term U.S. senator into the Oval Office back in 2008 when the man had zero meaningful national level experience and nor any leadership or management history and then spent -- as of now -- the next five and two thirds years spinning and covering for his endless failures. Leftwing racism and bigotry as aided and abetted by the leftwing loyalists Mainstream Media.

    As you say, the mess inside Ferguson is bringing all of this into the open before the nation's eyes; the political propaganda imbued ideological agenda of the Left's mainstream media, the organized and interconnected networks of both professional and amateur leftwing race agitators and race baiters, the pandemic and irrational hatred of working police officers, and the cynical determination to ensure that most Black communities remain utterly dependent on taxpayer funded government welfare and on Democratic Party control leadership regardless of how many more generations of people they ruin in the process.

    It's all come out into the open and if not for work ethic and integrity keeping them on the job, yes, it would be best if LEOs would simply say, "That's it. Our hands are tied by this leftwing dominated government and so all we are doing here is being a punching bag for rioters, the biased media, and this president's agenda driven ideologues. We are out of here. Enjoy!" Alas, however, that's just not going to happen. It's a shame, really.
     
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    Excellent points, one and all.
     
  17. JavisBeason

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    look up martin Lee anderson case....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Anderson_case

    The reason I point this out is the difference in the reactions....

    it was a case 2006, that had a black teenager drop dead in a local bootcamp after he stole his grandmother's car. During excercises, he died.


    Immediately, Jackson and Sharpton came out and preached it was racist cops.

    Governor crist writes the Martin family a big fat settlement check before the trial even started
    long lost father, of course, shows up, collects money, acts upset

    They even pulled the Trayvon martin move by getting a very young, sweet looking picture of the kid from 4 years earlier.


    first autopsy finds sickle-cell was the cause and noone had told the Bootcamp he had it, despite knowing since birth

    so political pressure got the first medical examiner fired and they replaced him with one that said he was murdered.

    Goes to trial and the guards are all acquitted.....


    People were mad..... but no riots....



    Since Obama has come in.... there have been two major race riots over cases involving black criminals dying at the hands of authorities (or neighborhood watch)


    The race baiting tactics were the same for Martin Lee Anderson.... yet it didn't quite ignite the flame.....



    I remember the kids of the jury members on the Martin lee Anderson case were threatened at the highschool MLA was zoned for (he was going to an alternative behavior school, but had lots of friends at the one school) The kids ended up having to transfer schools because of the threats against them
     
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    There was a time when officers would stop someone for suspected DUI, and if that person was not too intoxicated, they would follow them home instead of arresting them. But too often, the person being followed got into an accident. Injuring themselves or someone else. Because of the danger posed by the drunk driver, the practice had to be stopped. This situation is similar. If Mr. Brown and Mr. Johnson had assaulted or killed someone while Officer Wilson was observing them, then questions would have been raised as to why he was not doing his job..

    Always remember, it is always easier to judge in hindsight.
     
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    Your scenario seems a bit of a stretch, besides which most legal rights go to the citizen until an actual crime is witnessed. It would be nice if we had a pre-cog system like they do in science fiction, but taking action based on the idea that someone might commit a crime is not yet sound procedure.

    Obviously hindsight is better, but I do think bad judgement was applied here.

    I was once pulled over (for speeding!?) and was ordered to remain in my car. The police officer did not approach my car until two other cars were present. Which seems really excessive and asinine to me, but it speaks to the fact that a lone officer is not duty bound to retain all suspects alone.
     
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    How exactly did this cop have his eye socket savagely fractured when the suspect, Michael Brown, was on his knees with hands in the air respectfully deferring to police authority, supposedly? That's what I'd like to know.
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    INADB the injury shown in that X-ray looked very serious to me, certainly very likely to cause a concussion and instant unconsciousness. I mean bones from the skull around the eye seem completely gone, leaving just this this big hole; what is holding the poor man's eye in, and aren't the fragments into his brain?

    I'm also more than a little surprised that nobody but this blog whose other main story is about the biggest breasts on the Internet has picked this up, and I also notice they've got NO named source, though one is, supposedly, "somebody" in the Ferguson PD.

    I think I'll wait until another source checks in here
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Well, the story is that the cop had apparently taken him into custody and was trying to get him into the car when Brown began struggling and broke away, then ran, THEN turned around and charged him.

    Yes, this seems strangely similar to another incident to me too. Is running away and then turning on your armed pursuer the newest tactic among our wily black youth?
     
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    If the Xray is of the cop he would not need drugs to ignore the pain.

    It is very common, especially among people engaged in a fight, to not feel the pain of injuries until well after the incident has ended. Sometimes even hours later.

    Among other things it does adreneline helps blockout the initial pain of injuries. I have been in such situations myself. I once broke a finger in a fight and did not start to feel the pain much later when I was filling out paper work.

    Many accounts from many combat veterans, crime victims etc have reported many similar experiences. Even severe injuries such as gunshots are not always painful until well after the event happens.
     
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    you are trying to explain rational common sense logic to people who gain their life or death experiences from videogames...

    Serious bodily harm was inflicted.... that is all the criteria you need to be justified in shooting to kill..... it was the cop's duty to stop him, so it wasn't an illegal confrontation.


    All other details about the case are not consequential....
     
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