Officer Darren Wilson Suffered Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket

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  1. Recovering Conservative

    Recovering Conservative Active Member Past Donor

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    No, that's a link to a Newsweek article.
     
  2. Daily Bread

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    BOOKER T had it right.
     
  3. YouLie

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    You can search "use of force continuum," or ask your brother.
     
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    This is where opposing council would object that you are assuming facts not in evidence. Officer Wilson did not know that Mr. Brown was a suspect in a strong arm robbery. He only knew that he had two individuals walking in the street, and refusing to move to the sidewalk. Now the statements by the supposed witnesses don't even have a shred of believability to them. Think about it. If Officer Wilson had managed to pull someone as large as Michael Brown through the driver window into the front seat of his police SUV, what was he going to do with him? Spank him? I seriously doubt it.

    BTW, Peter Joy, a law professor quoted in the article, stated:

    " Whether or not the police officer knew Brown was unarmed when either fleeing or surrendering becomes important here. “Assuming the answer [is] he knew he was unarmed, I think that, by itself, would mean no justification for the shooting,” Joy said."

    Mr. Joy missed the fact that Officer Wilson had no way of knowing whether Mr. Brown or Mr. Johnson were armed. Even if the lying witnesses were truthful about Mr. Brown saying that he was unarmed, the officer could not take his word for it. Especially after Mr. Brown chose to charge the officer.
     
  5. Dale Cooper

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    lol. I wanted to comment but decided it's just not worth it. Keeping up must be difficult for some folks.
     
  6. Rainbow Crow

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    Brown didn't need to be armed for the officer to fear for his life if Brown was really charging him. After all, Brown apparently fractured his eye socket with one punch.
     
  7. Habana

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    "If a man bruises you, you make him bleed. If he makes you bleed you break his bone. If he breaks your bone you take his life". Bruce Lee
     
  8. Soupnazi

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    So far yes they have been spinning the spin seems to be that the source is an extreme right wing website like Stormfront.

    Truth is I never heard of gate way pundit and have no idea how reliable they are.

    I am sure other spin will follow if other sources pick up and run with this
     
  9. Soupnazi

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    That part about turning after being grazed is pure speculation unsupported by evidence
     
  10. Soupnazi

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    The occifer has claimed that Brown struggled for control of his weapon and THEN ran and THEN charged him.

    It is this struggle for control of the weapon which escelates it into a deadly force situation.

    Of course this detail has yet to be proven or even supproted by evidence.

    So far however other details are being slowly confirmed
     
  11. BringDownMugabe

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    Feel free to look it up.
     
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    Wow, so Brown fractured this guy's eye socket? He must have really hated white people or cops huh?
     
  13. northwinds

    northwinds Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did........the one thing I can't stand is a dishonest person......you posted for two day about the cop shooting from 35 feet......just own it
     
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    Has anyone thought that just maybe his marksmanship was perfect...Maybe the cop didn't want to kill him, so when he started running at him, maybe the cop purposefully took 4 shots just left of mass, hitting him in the arm and shoulder to try to get him to stop. then when the 300 lb gorilla thug didn't stop the cop placed two shots perfectly in the head to make him stop...just sayin'
     
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    Obviously he failed in his first attempt to get the gun, if he even made such an attempt. You know this is a very common defense for cops, saying the bad guy was going for his gun?

    I think he's innocent. I hope he's innocent. But I also know cops make mistakes like everyone else, especially when they're afraid. They're trained on the use of force continuum and use of their non lethal weapons so that fear doesn't overcome them, and they act as they're trained instead of overreacting and unnecessarily killing someone.

    If you presented cadets with this scenario in training, how many would shoot the assailant? The guy would have to literally ambush the cop for him not to have the opportunity to get his pepper spray or baton and use them. Maybe he was ambushed. It seems from all accounts that he was aware Mr. Brown was coming at him and he chose to pull his gun instead of use his baton or pepper spray.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Maybe he thought that giant would take the baton or pepper spray away from him like he tried to take the gun. I'm not second-guessing the police officer. We have to leave open the possibility for anything.
     
  16. Soupnazi

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    NO in fact neither I nor you know that it is a common defense for cops you merely wish it were.

    Granted it is not proven that Brown struggled for it but if he did it is logical that the officer drew it. In which case the very close distance would not permit him to reholster and draw another tool.
     
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    I think every white cop in ferguson should resign and go to work somewhere else.

    When the reward they get for risking their life is an attempt by the governor of the state, Obama and holder to have them put in jail then the job is not worth it.
     
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    Nothing to look up.

    No one has stated that the distance between the two was 35 feet.

    The distance of 35 feet was how far Brown's body was from Wilson's vehicle. Wilson was out of the vehicle and closer to Brown than the vehicle making it less than 35 feet.

    If brown was running towards Wilson it was very close
     
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    Precisely my point. northwinds misquoted me -- go figure.
     
  20. BringDownMugabe

    BringDownMugabe Well-Known Member

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    Best take your own advice.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=369786&p=1064178039#post1064178039
     
  21. Professor Peabody

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    Thank you! I thought about the same thing.
     
  22. yguy

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    Can't see it. Even if cops were trained to shoot like that, the guy had (assuming the story in the OP is accurate) already proven himself a threat to the cop's life with that blow to the head.
     
  23. YouLie

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    In all likelihood, the holster is at least a double retention, probably even triple retention holster. That's at least two moves in two different directions, maybe even three, to get the gun out of the holster. Virtually every street cop uses them. It's very difficult to get a cop's gun out of a double or triple retention holster, especially when he's fighting to keep it. He took it out and likely never holstered. The decision to shoot was made in the car.
     
  24. Battle3

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    The killer cop sure looks fine in this video right after the murder - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Michael-Brown-shooting-aftermath-emerges.html

    If that x-ray really is of the cop, with those bones sticking into his eye socket, that cop must be on drugs to ignore the pain and irritation. He doesn't even put his hand to his head in the video. More fake BS from the PD.
     
  25. peoshi

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    No he didn't genius.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=369756&page=9&p=1064177808#post1064177808

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=369756&page=5&p=1064177608#post1064177608

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=369756&page=3&p=1064177563#post1064177563

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=369474&page=4&p=1064172029#post1064172029

    Do you call vehicles "them"?
     

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