OSMANLI is back

Just as most Iranians want the Persian Empire back.

 

of course not.
I am happy that I am a citizen of modern Turkish Republic instead of Ottoman Empire.
Mineva is trolling the forum I guess.

 

I'm not against empires, especially considering the mess the 'national' states have made of the world, but a Sunni one under the Turks is not exactly my cup of tea...nor that of anyone else's other than a Sunni Turk. So I have a question for PM Devotoglu, how can Turkey bring about peace, unless the 'peace' they want is imposed on people by force?

As for the Iranians, if they want the Persian Empire back as assumed by the Sunni nations, and it would consist of areas where the majority of people want to be under a Persian Empire, then there is no reason to oppose it. If though they want to claim territory where the majority of people are not Iranians or Shias the way the Turks and others do, then they are an aggressive nation and culture, so I definitely would be against it..

Anyway, as far as I can tell the Iranians are not aggressive, nor do they want to put conflicting faiths under Shia hegemony, so it should be left up to the people's will.

 

Yes we should give everything to Italy since it was the center of the Roman Empire.

Except Russia of course. No one really conquered Russia.

 

Before Roman there were Hittites. Let's give it back to them. If we are talking about Anatolia become Turkish, then it is Turkish since 1071. Make sure you carve that somewhere visible so you can go look it up every once in a while to recall how long we have been around

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Are you sure it was Hezbollah? Were you with them? I'd believe that, seriously...

 

How do you know I was talking about you? ahahahaha

 

Why don't you ask it to Putin? He's the one ordered the kill of 400 kids at school in Beslan. He's the one ordered FSB to recruit Jihadis, send them to join ISIS and then invading Syria to supposed peace (bomb) campaign... Or you may wanna ask it to the 2 ministers of Greece who resigned over providing passports to Kurdish Terrorist Apo... I think they did for peace and they did not resign because they pushed their own country to the edge of war with Turks.. Trolls are fun...

 

But Constantine moved Rome to Byzantium, so Constantinople was really the Roman Empire. When Sultan Mehmet II conquered the city, he declared himself the new Roman Emperor...I guess because he felt Islam superseded Christianity. There was one problem though, it was the holy 'Christian' Roman Empire, not the holy Islamic one.

The next thing the Ottomans wanted to do was conquer Rome. ..and don't believe for one second that they have given up on that. They believe it is Allah's will.

There were a lot of stories circulating at the time. One was that the Sultan began seeing visions or dreams of a hand every day so he went to his soothsayers to find out what it meant but to no avail. So one day he went to an Orthodox monk and he told him that it didn't have anything to do with him and not to worry.

The five fingers meant that if there were five good people left in Constantinople the city would not have been conquered. He also said that the city would remain under Islamic rule for a certain amount of years. Those years are now up. If I were Erdogan, I would be worried...really worried.

 

Maybe they will decide to break away and join russia. Kurds will have their land that they want then.

 

Oh, so then you were in the Russian secret services? Interesting! If I were you I would be careful then...very, very careful I mean Putin does not look favorably upon those kind of things. Watch your water especially, it might contain polonium. Oh that's right, it's the British that do those kind of things.

As for Greece, I didn't know you were in the Greek intelligence as well? Boy you really get around.

 

OMG Hilarious... See reds please

15th-century illustrated French translation of Boccacio's De Casibus Virorum:

 

ahahaha... Are Greek schools responsible for this kind of medieval rationale? I'm not in FSB but Elena Milashina, an awarded Russian journalist exposed their role with this:

Russia Is Sending Jihadis to Join ISIS

http://www.novayagazeta.ru/inquests/69364.html

You can either translate it by yourself or try this English one:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...aying-a-double-game-with-islamic-terror0.html

 

You think you know who the Hittites are because you think you are them.

The Hittite language was a distinct member of the Anatolian branch of the Indo-European language family. They referred to their native land as Hatti. The conventional name "Hittites" is due to their initial identification with the Biblical Hittites in 19th century archaeology. The Hittites became an important component of the Turkish nationalist history beginning in the 1920s with authors such as Ahmet Ağaoğlu, and the creation of institutions such as the state-owned Etibank (Hittite bank).[2]

Despite the use of Hatti for their core territory, the Hittites should be distinguished from the Hattians, an earlier people who inhabited the same region (until the beginning of the 2nd millennium BC) and spoke a language possibly in the Northwest Caucasian languages group known as Hattic.[3]





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites

You see. The oldest known people of the area were the Hatties who spoke a Northwestern causcasian language. They don't call one of the oldest languages in history "Indo-European" because it was 'stolen' from modern day (1071 AD) Turks. Sorry
Please read the article. I have done a lot of research on this kind of thing. I am fascinated with history and anthropology. I'm right. You're wrong.

 

Caucasian is a term used for western Europeans. ..by western Europeans. It means they originally came from the Caucasus. As for the Russians, they use the term solely for the people in the Caucasus today such as the Georgians, Chechnyans, Dagestans, etc. Semites are not considered Caucasian.

As for the ancient Egyptians, they used a language similar to the Coptic language. They are the direct descendants of the Egyptians...and they are not Semites. Just look at them, they are similar to the Ethiopians. Their features and coloring changed slightly because of intermarriage with the Greeks and Romans.

The name Copt comes from the word 'cut', since they cut themselves off from the rest of the Orthodox Churches by not accepting the Seventh Ecumenical Council. As for shaving their heads, everyone at one time wore head coverings because of lice.

Another thing of interest is that Cleopatra was 100% Greek. Alexander the Great built the city of Alexandria in Egypt, and his general Ptolemy was in charge. They followed the Egyptian custom of brother marrying sister, so that Cleopatra was a direct descendant of Ptolemy on both sides of the family.

 

What do you mean closely related to Greece? What is this, a way of saying "I am getting paid by Greek diaspora to be seem like them by talking on behalf of them and by posting especially Anti-Turkish posts"? You are either Greek or not. Let's cut the BS...

 

As for the ancient Egyptians, they used a language similar to the Coptic language. They are the direct descendants of the Egyptians...and they are not Semites. Just look at them, they are similar to the Ethiopians. Their features and coloring changed slightly because of intermarriage with the Greeks and Romans.


I know this is ethnic centric, but the red-haired Ramesses was not Ethiopian. Very few of the characters in the hieroglyphs have features like Ethiopians. The only Africans that I can recall in the hieroglyphs are the ones with their hands tied behind their backs, and a few late-age African-looking mummies. I don't what ethnicity Ramesses was but he was not African or Semitic. I agree with the rest of what you said in your post though.

 

Aryans and people from the Arabian Peninsula and India are also considered Caucasians.

 

Hahah I think someone's having serious issues here. How come you think you have any rights to speak on behalf of me? What's the point to lie and to throw superficial arguments like these I'd ask but I already know the point.

One of them is starting a troll thread other one jumps in while multi accounts flooding... Let's keep the ball rolling... Hilarious !

 

Please Answer !

 

They might be considered "Caucasian" in the US census, but not in the annals of anthropology. They were originally the people from Southeastern Europe, and gradually the term came to represent all Europeans. There is the Indo-European language from which we get many of our words,

 

I am closely related to the Dutch and Germans too because my mother was French first, with a dash of German and Dutch thrown in. I could say that I am almost French/Irish but for the Dutch and German. What I can say is that I am 100% European--and proud of it.

It would be interesting to do DNA tests on the mainstream Turks. I bet you would find a menagerie of races in the mix.