oung athlete, 11, grabbed gun from his mom’s car before shooting teammates: surveillance footage

Shocking surveillance footage caught the moment an 11-year-old grabbed a gun from his mother’s vehicle and fired on his teammates after they reportedly took his bag of chips.

The video, released by police Tuesday night, appears to show the alleged shooter being chased by one of his teammates following a youth football practice at a park in Apopka, Florida, Monday night.

The young boy then races to a vehicle in the parking lot and grabs a gun from the passenger-side seat...

https://nypost.com/2023/10/04/video-shows-youth-football-player-grab-gun-and-shoot-teammates/



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I'm sure this is what the American forefathers intended when they declared: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".

Or, perhaps it's merely an example of: "more guns makes americans safer".

 

The use of a firearm in self-defense?
Yes. They had this in mind.

Self-defense does make people safer, yes.

 

And a wonderfully instructive example is presented in OP of the success of American gun laws.

 

I'm just waiting for a knowledgeable gun proponent to come along and explain to us that the 11-year-old was within his rights to grab the gun and shoot in self-defense and potential loss of property. I'll get the popcorn out now...

 

On its face, based on just what you presented
He was chased by a group of people who presumably meant to do him harm; he had a reasonable fear.
At age 31, 21, or 11, you have the right to defend yourself.

Sad how you need this explained.

 

Indeed.
Who knows what might have happened to him, if he did not have access to the means to defend himself.

 

Gang culture is most definitely a reason for law abiding people to own guns.

 

shooting anyone without justification is severely punished in the USA-and I bet you knew that

 

many gun banners spend a lot of time trying to justify gang behavior

 

"You just wanna shoot people of color!!!'
- Mindless anti-gun troglodytes

 

This is the result of the violent subculture that exists in the black community. Sounds like that needs fixin more than banning guns.

 

I would love to see a genuine source for that bullshit …

 

read this board for a few years. Many of those who went into full meltdown mode over the January 6th civil disturbance ignored or even excused the Antifa/BLM riots, murders and anarchy

 

A better question would be why is there a gun on the passenger seat in a car with an 11 year old in it? Is that area dangerous or part of the hood?

 

Seeing a lot of self-defense justification in here…

I don’t think you need to be a gun banner to agree that a scuffle between 11 year old boys warrants defense by lethal force. Parent should be charged with leaving a loaded firearm accessible to a child without proper supervision.

Child probably needs therapy.

 

No, I don't think they had in mind, the use of deadly force, by an eleven year old, over some other kids taking a bag of chips from him. If you watch the video, it does not appear the boy is in any imminent danger-- far less any threat, requiring that sort of response. But I imagine you'll be very proud of the young sniper-- with only one shot fired, he hit two of his teammates.

Two words: SAFE STORAGE.


Apparently, many need regulatory guidelines, to aid their understanding of the meaning of these three other words, ubiquitously applied to all legal gun owners, as if they were practically synonymous terms-- RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNER.

 

I can’t find anything that specifies what part of Apopka this took place, but that would be illegal regardless of where they were.

 

Self defense?
Sure they did.
You can question if the situation warrants self-defense, but you cannot question the idea that they had the exercise of the right to self-defense in mind when they ratified the 2nd.

As far as 11yr olds...
Change the date and time to 1791 and the American frontier.
Change the threat to raiding indians.
What do you suppose Madison or Hamilton or Jefferson or Washington would say to said 11yr old who protected himself and others with mom's gun?

Great idea.
Cannot be legally required.

 

Because on its face, what's what we have here.

That's the great thing about self-defense -- the level of threat is gauged through the eyes of the person in question.
You're 11. Is a group of, say 14yr olds, are chasing you, presumably to do bodily harm, do you face a credible threat to your person?
Do you have the right to defend yourself?

 

Sure, you can defend yourself-- but not by shooting them (in the back, no less)!

 

It would appear that this story is being used to represent gun ownership as a whole. Second Amendment Rights equals 11 year-olds shooting people over a bag of chips. I can't help but notice that this feigned concern for children and safety does not show up when the killer/rapist is an illegal immigrant. I just don't hear the calls for banning illegal immigration.

 

How does an 11 year old defend himself against multiple 14 year olds? Take the gun out of the equation and think in more general terms. How does the average 11 year old defend himself against multiple 14 year olds?

 

Another example of totally irresponsible gun owners.
The mother is also being charged which is a good thing.
It's about time parents/guardians/gun owners are finally being charged.
It certainly took long enough even after so many mass shootings.
It was over a "bag of chips".
How mentally ****ed-up is it for a kid to want to use a gun for that?

 

Why not?
If someone is a legitimate threat to your life, you have the right to use deadly force, if necessary, to protect yourself.

 

The anti-gun left is forced to use misrepresentation and false equivalence, because they have so little else.