OVAL OFFICE FIGHT: President Trump, Chuck Schumer And Nancy Pelosi ARGUE Over Border Wall Funding

LOL. Carry water for them. Where'd you dream that up?

And no, it's not an issue, that's why there's been nothing done for 40 yrs.

 

Sure, they put country basically into recession.
I do remember interest rates in the 1980s near 16% to try and halt borrowing. Mortgage rates near 16%. That will show down everything.
And yes, it worked.
Just like bringing interest rates to near 0% when the opposite happened. To ward of deflation. Deflation is 100X worse than inflation. For it's a race to the bottom and no one can get there fast enough in a deflationary environment.

Reagan and Volker worked together,
But, Obama and Bernanke did not?
If you believe so.

And you managed to post all that without a personal attack. Hmm. Nice!

 

What are you yammering about?

I have to wonder how much experience you actually have in being in |contentious conversations with colleagues" when you make such unsubtantiated wild arsed assumptions.

and of course spouting bullshit and lies isn't a tactic on trump's part. Who knew that its some sort of underhanded tactic to insist on the truth.

Lyin' Cheatin' Crooked Donnie. Temperature is rising and the crimes are mounting.

 

That's pretty weak sauce argument for zero borders while maintaining a social safety net becoming overburdened by underclass immigrants.

Political representatives get paid by those that directly benefit from an underclass of laborers suppressing wages that are subsidized by the dwindling middle class that is having it's wages suppressed and kept in power from the votes of those that receive the benefits keeps the status quo thus proving that there isn't an issue with the system to begin with.

Freaking genius.

Let's apply this logic to all issues that have a small number of beneficiaries with a wide pool receiving the burden. Hell, every problem in the world suddenly evaporates.

 

If you couldn't see what she was doing right off the bat, then, you have most likely missed being manipulated several times throughout life. Either that, or you are someone that gets paid regardless of progress.

 

I saw exactly what she was doing. Contrasting normal with trump. Sat ASn and within seconds "trump shutdown" was outta her mouth.

Seems trump wasn't exactly prepared for that one and threw him off for a second. And then the bullshit started coming out trump's mouth.

 

It is not surprising that you think an empty bumper sticker political moment was substantive.

 

We can agree on one thing, Dairy -- that Obama and Bernanke worked together. Yes. Because Obama was Bernanke's handpuppet and stooge -- just like "W" Bush was. The Fed's instructions were funneled to Bush by Henry Paulson, and Obama harkened to two-time convicted tax cheat, Tim Geithner. Both Paulson and Geithner, of course, were Fed 'insiders' of long-standing.

Parenthetically, why is Trump so unhappy with current Fed Chairman Powell? Because like most über-powerful multi-billionaires, Trump assumed that as his appointee, Powell would have the Federal Reserve continue Trump's desired course of nearly-squashed interest rates, and continued de facto support for soaring stock market prices. Trump is now learning that the Fed doesn't answer to ANY U. S. President.

But I see our fundamental point of disagreement -- you think deflation is the worst thing in the world, but I see sky-raking inflation as being far worse! Key point: In deflation, prices fall to find their true market value. Inflation, on the other hand, is a speculator's orgasm -- especially at the stock markets, which is where the Fed put all its emphasis and effort beginning in August 2007.

So, I guess we'll disagree about this. But since you like the Fed so much, at least give Fed Chairpersons Bernanke and Yellen their just acknowledgement for what they've done since August 2007. For good or ill, everything that happened in the economy of the U. S. from that point has been on the FED, not on clueless clowns like "W" Bush or Barack Obama....

From 2012, one of my all-time favorite political cartoons, by the master, Chuck Asay:

 

Freakonature did not make a wild assumption. It's a very substantiated, fact, that Pelosi crashed and burned. Freakonature merely highlighted that fact.

Pelosi had a chance to seize the moment, then she failed. Pelosi had a chance to call Trump's bluff in front of a global audience, but she was afraid. She had a chance to compliment transparency by discussing a mere few nuances of the wall, publicly, but she deferred to private meetings that she wants to have.

 

Deem it week if you wish.
But 40 yrs says otherwise.
And no one who can be take serious has ever advocated ZERO borders. RW BS.
The root cause is what has not been dealt with.
But go ahead with your tRUMPisms.

 

No fan of Pelosi.
But how did she crash and burn, when she got tRUMP to admit, on camera, he will be responsible for ANY govt shutdown?
And, he requested the cameras to be turned on. He was owned. yuuuuuggge.

 

Shut down the GOVT so to take, a stand, against the Dems desire to flood our nation with illegal imms?!!

Trump gets my support!! Shut it down!


If you understood the big picture/why Obama Hillary & The Dems, want our nation packed full of immigrants ... then you'd support the Trump shutdown too.

 

But, if one is smart, they know the system is the same today as it was 40 yrs ago. When R hero Reagan was in office.
Dumb people think 1 party is against the immigration we have today and 1 is for it. When it's not changed much at all.
Now, back to RW BS radio. Thx.

 

That is the ultimate issue; is it preferable to continue and delay any effort to change the immigration situation or should a wall be built? People who voted for Trump want the wall, others would prefer to continue and delay.

 

okay whatever you say. Dear Leader lyin' his arse off once again. Dear Leader demonstrating his petulance. Dear Leader demonstrating his strength and commitment to his very own bullshit. Can't be proud but you can be loud.

 

The old standby RW "1+1=3" defense.

Got it.

 

This is factually untrue. There are multitudes of examples too. Consider a colossal one within Black citizens for example;

Bush43 but especially Obama, allowed HISP to come in and shove Black citizens further to the rear of the soup line/race for American racial hierarchy. 40yrs ago, the avg HISP worth was not 3X that of the avg Black citizen's worth. But it is today.

Blacks can thank Obama for that. Trump is here to clean house for Blacks, so they'd better show Trump some gratitude.

 

Not impressed.


Nancy looked like a brazened-coward ... she did not appear symbolic of the mantra Dems have been pushing, lately, about approaching RW in public wherever you see them and aggressively address the issues.


She failed to seize the moment, and the Dems will pay for it.

 

Are you equating ambushing someone in a restaurant with a chat in the Oval Office?

Does "Ridiculous FALSE EQUIVALENCY" ring a bell?

 

What changes were made to the system to allow what you claim happened?
The law or EO that did this. Link please.

 

There's no false equivalency regarding, transparency, and Nancy was too afraid to call Trump's bluff to verify that.

There's nothing you can do to change the fact that Dems lost a costly opportunity there.

 

You don't need links, to know that Obama used his bullypulpit to uplift HISP, not Blacks.

*The social programs and minority home-ownership imperatives and other Socialism reaches, mainly went to HISP and LGBTQ. Obama made sure of it.
*The DREAM Act was not created to give Black people a leg up, on the eternal legacy of Slavery.
*When Obama & Napolitano put out that exec order, daring cops, to touch another White HISP illegal imm...they did NOT put out an Addendum, daring cops, to gun down another unarmed Black male.

 

So you have no shred of evidence to back up your claim.
I am not surprised.
|And yes, I need links. I need proof you aren't blowing RW smoke. For that is all you have.

 

I backed up my claim, with but a few ironclad examples which I promise you cannot dispel nor invalidate. And there are plenty more.

But, why post them??


You'll just continue to play pretend anyway.