Part 37 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

According to the Bible the God character is a racist and bigot and everyone ends up cursing him.

 

You gotta be jivin us boy! Why on earth would anybody want to make up Christianity and let themselves in for serious hassle from the snooty priests? That's a question atheists can't answer..
For example early Christian Stephen told the snooty priests some home truths about their treatment of Jesus-
"..you have betrayed and murdered him" (Acts 7:52)
So they called in their lackeys to kill him (below).

 

(sigh)...I keep asking you atheists to explain what possible motive the early Christians would have for "inventing" Christianity, but haven't yet had a reply..
Until then, your and your atheist chums conspiracy-theories simply won't fly..

DC-3 crash,Ruislip, England, 1948, no serious injuries

 

They punish themselves in the same way that a person who refuses to give an armed mugger their wallet and gets shot is actually choosing to die and therefore their death is a suicide.

 

Just like you choose to commit suicide if you don't give the mugger your wallet.

 

Why would anyone invent Mormonism and get in a serious hassle with the Snooty Priests and their armed mobs?

 

The Stockholm Syndrome is alive and well in this thread.

 

And I've been asking, for months, for explanations as to why Christianity has obviously taken quotes out of context to form it's beliefs. No answers.

Why not ask Mohammed why he 'created' Islam? How did he convince others when you consider him a fake. Or was it Paul who actually started Christianity. The early Jewish Christians never actually separated themselves completely from Judaism. Even Paul maintained some of his Pharasaic beliefs, and adapted others to fit the situation. Rome considered Christianity a Jewish sect for decades.
Paul supposedly had a 'vision', even as supposedly Mohammed spoke to Gabriel.

The fact is that when people want to believe in something, as did the disciples - or they would have wasted 3 years of their lives - they will grasp at almost anything. Hitler promised, and delivered, a prosperous Germany and the people followed him to their death. Maybe the disciples really did have some beliefs about Jesus. The fact is that the writers of the Gospels - apart from possibly John, a writer who wrote many decades later from memory - were not eyewitnesses of the events. Few believe that Matthew wrote his, Mark and Luke secondhand. John is anonymous. Modern scholars reject 21:24.

All religions start with someone convincing another they're right, and it goes on from their.

I've never presented you with a conspiracy theory. Just facts.

 

The burden of proof is not upon me as I make no claim to the positive or the negative.

Source citation needed if you want to elevate to above bolded claim to a fact.

 

It is a fact the grave was empty and Jesus was seen by over 500 witnesses.

 

But we don't find anywhere in the Scriptures of the New Testament where Jesus commanded His followers to kill anyone on the spot who didn't believe in Him. So I hope you're not suggesting that the human race would have been much better off if He never came into this fallen sinful world, it is quite the contrary. We Christians rejoice that He came into this fallen sinful world to save us from condemnation. And we rejoicingly await for the day when we will enter into His Kingdom of Heaven to live with Him for all eternity!We will thank Him!, praise Him!, worship Him forever and ever! Praise the Lord Almighty!

But anyway what He did command His initial followers who were His twelve disciples to do was to preach the Good News. And that anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved but all others who refuse to believe will be condemned, in other words when they die and leave this world to enter the after-life they will be punished for the sins they have committed.

We Read in Scripture:

And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned." ---Mark 16:15-16 NLT

And now look at us today, there are a little over 2 billion practicing Christians world-wide! Amazing when you consider the initial twelve to the several billion followers today and that's not even counting all the past saved souls who are currently with our Lord in heaven right now.

 

1) The tomb was not watched over by followers of Jesus for the entirety of the three days.

2) Eyewitness testimony is a weak form of evidence as our fallible senses are easily fooled.

3) In the absence of science, mysticism rules.

4) Stories argued as fact need to be supported by fact. Critical thinkers must explore the possibility that the fantastical claims made in the Bible may be hyperbolic, allegorical, metaphorical or outright fabrications.

I am interested in facts, not fuzzy feeling based belief.

Source citation needed if you claim the above as fact.

 

Source citation needed for stated fact.

 

Scripture. First Corinthians 15:6.

 

No, those are two claims that you believe. They are not facts.

 

What evidence do you have that proves that the above scripture is a factual account?

 

It's not a fact. It's just a claim.

The fact that the tomb was empty is simple. Someone moved the body. The whole story of the soldiers/guards is ridiculous.

1. They did not need Pilate's permission to set a guard. They had their own Temple guards. Pilate had finished with the whole matter. He'd let the body go.
2. It was Passover - one of the most important Jewish Festivals. Jews did not work on that day at Jahweh's command, and guarding the tomb was work.
3. It would not be Roman soldiers guarding the tomb. Anyway Roman soldiers were not to be bribed in cases like these. It was death if caught.

The story makes no sense except to explain the 'resurrection' .

And neither does the arrest, trial, crucifixion. The story has no meaning because we don't know when it happened. Monday? Tuesday? Wednesday? Thursday? Who knows?

 

Hold it. The myth in question says that god is the creator of all that is, and that there is a place of very great suffering reserved for "sinners". And so guess what. .... if you "go there", your god is responsible. The buck stops with god!

 

Right. Somebody stole the body from the tomb so you could say that.

 

It's Scripture, not the NY Times, CNN or Fox News.

 

Ergo anecdotal. Get back to me when you can present facts backed by irrefutable source citation.

 

The tomb belonged to Joseph of Arimathea, who lived over 20 miles from the site. Joe was a disciple and he believed Jesus when he said that if a person ate his flesh and drank his blood that he would gain eternal life. So Joe, being a true believer, took possession of the corpse and put it in his tomb. Later on Joe stole the body, slurped up the blood, and had some roasted Jesus for dinner. Joe got sick and died. No one ate his body except the worms.

 

There will never be enough irrefutable source citation for some people.

 

If you can prove for a fact that the resurrection happened, I will abandon my skepticism and swear fealty to Jesus. I am not joking here.

 

No, you won't.