Part 37 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

You're deliberately twisting Scripture. You know God gave you free will to choose, and you choose to not follow God, yet you blame God for the choice you make.

 

If you're asking whether I'm 'Romeo Fabulini' from another forum the answer is yes mate..
I've also been known by other names in other forums over the years, e.g. 'Waymarker' and 'High Strangeness' etc, and for a while I was 'Johnny Brady' here at PF, but after the recent PF server change I found I couldn't log in any more and had to re-register as 'Dropship'.
A rose by any other name..

 

Can you disprove it?..
Consider this- Mohammed, Buddha, Joseph Smith and all other assorted cultists and mystics are in graves, but Jesus is not.
Spot the difference?

 

It's not death row. It's torture row.

It's the equivalent of a child doing one thing wrong and then the parent locking that child in the basement and mutilating them everyday for the rest of their lives for that one offense, except worse than that because eternity is forever as opposed to the child who will eventually die.

 

Just like you have free will to choose whether or not to give me your wallet when I put a gun to your head, and if you choose not to, that makes your death a suicide.

 

Why should you care, since you don't believe there is a God.

 

That's some twisted thinking.

 

And the only possible explanation is resurrection? His followers couldn't have removed his remains and hidden them to make it seem as if he resurrected?

We already know they were willing to make things up about Roman censuses and the character of Pilate, why wouldn't they be willing to make more things up?

 

I have just as much of a problem when people praise Kim Jong Un or Hitler.

When people praise monsters, it's an issue for me.

 

Indeed it is. So why do you engage in it regarding hell?

 

I haven't mentioned hell, you do. I'm living in eternity with God.

 

And you could be giving me your wallet instead of committing suicide. I give you a free escape from committing suicide.

 

And you could be living in eternity with God instead of hell, but you choose not to.

 

Right, all I'd have to do is praise a monster who commits the single most evil act that could ever possibly exist.

 

If you reject someone, why should they let you live with them?

 

it was witnessed and documented like anything else in human history that is to be remembered for generations to come. why is there a problem with that, when it comes to the Creator and Judge? thing is, it was an event, not a building or something of that nature, that has ruins to examine. therefore either one trusts the witnesses or not. even Jesus declared that He is a witness of His Father in Heaven unto the world and that His Father in Heaven is His witness.

more than one witness that tells the same story would be a slam dunk in most courts of justice in the world, but evidence alone is subject to interpretation. hence if one has a relationship with the Lord God via Jesus Christ then one is experiencing, and is a witness to that effect, but just to read the bible and have no relationship with the God that those in the bible had a relationship with, is left to interpretation. the bible isn't evidence of the existence of God it is a documentation of those who had a relationship with God, and when those who have a relationship with that same Living God the bible affirms that they truly are following the same God the writers did.

and yes the churches on and off in their history have been lead by many that were familiar with what the bible says, but not the God spoken of therein.

 

God is perfect, but the church is made up of imperfect human beings.

 

Good to see ya, Dropship. (I really liked the Romeo designation...and may occasionally use the "R.")

 

The Law of Moses is a Mishmash of everything found in previous and contemporary (to the supposed age of Moses) civilisations. You've only got to study ancient civilisations to discover that.
The Psalms. Some of them are based on the Ugarit religion and gods. Don't take my word for it, look it up.

In fact much of Judaism shares an affinity with Ugarit religion and gods though written just after Ugarit. In Ugarit El was the chief god (Elohim) and Yahweh one of the lesser gods. When the Jews became monotheistic they covered all the pantheon by using 'Yahweh'. It's all there for you to read. The Ugarit texts were found in 1929 and give us a greater understanding of the way Judaism was formed.

http://religion.oxfordre.com/view/1...99340378.001.0001/acrefore-9780199340378-e-90 The writer is a Biblical scholar and ancient historia.

Your text is simply words put in Jesus mouth by a Gospel writer. Perhaps he believed it at the time. Who knows?

 

Maybe they shouldn't. But should they then lock me a dungeon and mercilessly torture me instead?

 

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are three of the most disgusting people in the Bible. All of the gods in the universe wouldn't be able to keep them out of hell (if gods and hell existed).

 

God regards Jesus-rejecters as "failed human beings" mate, they punish themselves by choosing to be locked out in the cold because they didn't want to pick up the party invite..
Jesus said- "The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son...he told his servants- go out and invite to the banquet anyone you find" (Matt 22:2)

 

Neither can it be said for many of His non-followers (unbelievers). The point being we are all sinners, we are all fallen human beings, living in a fallen, sinful world. We are all deserving punishment for our sins.

But wait we can rejoice! for a Savior came to us. Jesus the Prince of peace & love came into the world to rescue every fallen human being. But sadly not every fallen human being wants to be rescued, only the ones who believe in Him, who believe He is their Lord Savior! They are the ones who want to be rescued by Him in this fallen sinful world. All others the unbelievers choose to pay the penalty of their sins by being punished for them. Such an unwise decision, one that they will all regret terribly one day!

We Read in Scripture:

God’s Judgment of Sin

"You may think you can condemn such people, but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself, for you who judge others do these very same things. And we know that God, in his justice, will punish anyone who does such things. Since you judge others for doing these things, why do you think you can avoid God’s judgment when you do the same things? Don’t you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant, and patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? Can’t you see that his kindness is intended to turn you from your sin?

But because you are stubborn and refuse to turn from your sin, you are storing up terrible punishment for yourself. For a day of anger is coming, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed. He will judge everyone according to what they have done. He will give eternal life to those who keep on doing good, seeking after the glory and honor and immortality that God offers. But he will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live for themselves, who refuse to obey the truth and instead live lives of wickedness. There will be trouble and calamity for everyone who keeps on doing what is evil—for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all who do good—for the Jew first and also for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.

When the Gentiles sin, they will be destroyed, even though they never had God’s written law. And the Jews, who do have God’s law, will be judged by that law when they fail to obey it. For merely listening to the law doesn’t make us right with God. It is obeying the law that makes us right in his sight. Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. And this is the message I proclaim—that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone’s secret life." ---Romans 2:1-16 NLT

 

Why not?

Your choice.

 

Just goes to show God's grace. God forgives everyone that turns to Him.