Pathetic Political Correctness.

Typical.........aussie misses another point! You got to be playing silly beggars with this response, surely! Lol

The point is, is that we tend to physically define aborigines! How do you physically define an Australian? Nicole Kidman was born in Hawaii, but yet we claim her- she has red hair lol.... Why don't we throw in Olivia Newton John UK, Mel Gibson USA, Russell crow NZ, guy Pearce UK, Hugo weaving Nigeria, Isla fisher Oman, George gregan SA, Hugh jackman UK, Sam Neil Ireland and the list could go on.........No, the only way to physically define an Australian is by using a traditional aboriginal person as an example!! .......you see it all starts to get a bit messy trying to sift through it all. You are an aussie because that is who you are and what you identify with......aboriginal people with light skin are not only connected by blood unlike us, but are obviously connected by intrinsics!

 

Well done TV, you have agreed with me completely, never thought I would see the day! You say so yourself, you can't claim to be English, Scottish or Spanish even though these nationalities make up your heritage. So you will agree that someone who is mostly of English, Irish or Scottish decent with a smidgin of aborigine chucked in is just playing with themselves if they claim to be Aboriginal.

 

What does stopping “boaties” entering your country through the backdoor to gain easy access to your welfare system, got to do with ownership of a country - you silly confused little man. You really need to "UP" your Med's!!

 

Check out message #47, and now you can understand why I don't take these clowns seriously or enter into a serious debate with them. Please ask the idiot HOW he connected the dots on security on a countries population with ownership of a country. LOL LOL Now you know why I only play mental hop-scotch with these pair of morons.

 

So, if an Aborigine lives in Cape York, why cant they be defined as a "Cape York Aborigine"?
If an Aborigine lives in an urban area, why the wrist flap if they are described as an "urban Aborigine"?

Political Correctness is nothing more than a tool of other tools who wish to controll people`s thoughts and speech.

PC is a joke.

 

Another person who doesn't read to understand, but selective in comprehension. I stated "based on your criteria for identity! The difference between people of mixed Aboriginal descent and me is that they can easily stay connected to culture, family and land. I can't stay connected to land and culture from Scotland or England. It's lost to me because of distance.

We claim to be australian, because we are connected in birth and culture. If you and your wife decide to up and go to live in Ireland and your children are born and bred over there, then what does that make them?????? Especially if they were to never make contact with australian soil for the rest of their lives. How about if your children marrying a partner of similiar background...................I know it sounds a little confusing for you, but you make it confusing by basing someones identity on physical features. Surely you aren't that stupid???? People are connected by culture not physical attributes, but the difference between us claiming to be australian and them claiming their Aboriginality is that they are connected by blood, and their great great grand parents etc roamed the country for 60 thousands years......Yes they are connected!!! But you and I are not.......by blood anyway!!!!! As far as known factual and known history takes us, we are from Europe and they are from Australia.........yes yes yes...........theories about land bridges and humans deriving from Africa is theory, but we are working from known facts! Otherwise things can get messier in terms of your silly little superficial ideals!!

 

The fruitloop says no one owns Australia but doesn't want boat people coming through the back door.....hahahahahahaahaha..oh and bludge off our system.....lmfao hahahahaha. I told you this guy is a superficial fruitloop!!!!! Hmmmmmm....what happened 200 years ago now...... here, use this to spew your vile and hate out.... you're a sad excuse for a neandethal!!!

 

I reckon I could answer that, but I'm sure slippery could too because he has a connection. From how I see it he was using it in a derogotry manner, especially with reference to Ken Wyatt. He didn't have to make reference to Ken Wyatt and make it sound like this guy, (who is obviously strongly culturally connected) a lesser Aborigine. Who is he to make those judgements, especially in his position of sensitivity.( He did wear a kangaroo skin to his inauguration FFS!!!)

He could have said that it would be great to have another Aboriginal person with different experiences and background! It's not hard to be sensitive in situation you are unsure of..................this guys simply shoots off his mouth without thinking. (This fool will get us all killed if he becomes PM.) I could just imagine him saying something insulting to the chinese or indonesian that will put us in a precarious situation!!!!! I'd blame you silly barsdades who believe in free speech without limitation. Free speech is not meant to be insulting but constructive you fools!!!

 

Ken Wyatt is of mixed Aboriginal, Indian, English and Irish descent and he looks rather like a white Australian with a tan and he may have exploited his remote indigenous ancestry for political gain and calling him as an "urban Aboriginal" is quite inaccurate.

 

What is your heritage? If you say Australian, this has to be wrong, especially if you were to look like me lol! If you are white, you can't be a real Australian, as much as wyatt couldn't be aboriginal. If you say you're Australian because you're connected to culture and were born here, I'd accept that! I'd even accept it if you were of Chinese or Indian heritage and were connected to Australian culture and born here!

You see, I'm a European Australian, like you id suspect! We have Chinese Australians, we have Indian Australians, and we have the original Australians!! It always intrigued me how we see things differently for aborigines! It just screams racism to me! I can't see it any other way to be honest. It's a terrible attitude that wreaks of lack of mental maturity!!

Now unravel that mess!

Ken wyatt is obviously connected to his aboriginal culture and that is what makes him an aboriginal.......I've listened to some ignorant people but this takes the cake....lol!!!!

 

He looks not unlike most Aboriginals I know. I find it amazing how if we need to we say they're part white, other times it's part black. We don't accept them as Aboriginal, but we don't accept them as black either. It's not as though many Aboriginal women had a lot of say in it 50-100 years ago.

We don't accept them as white because they have Aboriginal blood in them, which funnily enough is exactly the reason they are accepted by their people.

 

well said TV, I wasn't going to spell it out for the dummies, rather leave them wallowing in their own self importance.

Any reasonably intelligent person could see it but once they focused on the "urban Aboriginal" bit I thought it would have been a little to hard and over tax their meager grey matter.

Let's see if I'm right.

 

Hey DV, a prominent aboriginal man once said about shallow attitudes: I think it may have been the politician mundine???????? "If a mixed blood aborigine is sitting in a park drinking, then he is a no good aboriginal........if he is up lecturing in a universities he has to be something other"! Go figure.....lol! Racism is a terrible disease that lodges itself in the shallow recesses of the brain!

The battles that these people have to constantly go through because of a bunch of ignorant clowns is an embarrassing blight! There are some here just sh!t stirring but there are others that you seriously feel have'nt the capacity to understand!

 

You are happy to say "Chinese Australians", and "Indian Australians", so what`s your hangup with "Urban Aborigines"?

 

Nothing, never said there was, nothing racist about that at all IMHO

 

You are a waste of time! Read the posts rather than extending the argument unnecessarily!

 

You are a waste of time! Read the posts rather than extending the argument unnecessarily!

 

You agree with me then, political correctness is a waste of time, the tool of megalomaniacal control freaks.

 

Don't know how TV feels but I do think it (political correctness) does sometimes get out of hand. This however, is in my honest opinion, is not about PC, it's not really even that racist. It is however about stupidity, and from someone who wants the highest office in the land. It's just one more stupid thing he has said. Like the ironing guff, totally inappropriate and uncalled for. Abbott's problem, besides not giving alternatives when he opposes something, is it appears as there is no connection between his mouth and his brain, and I and it appears the majority of Australians don't like that in a a prospective Prime Minister.

 

Just for the record, in reality, I don't think Abbott is a mysogynist, not sure about him being racist and I don't think he deliberately lies, but ... IMHO, he is definitely not leader material.

 

I'm with ya DV! To be totally honest, I don't think abbott is a misogynist or racist either, I do believe he is both ignorant and arrogant!

When it comes to Santa Claus and his ho's...yeah PC has gotten out of hand. Abbott's comments regarding wyatt was not an issue of political correctness imo, I mean the term "urban aboriginal" wasn't the real issue, it was the context in which he used it. You could use Urban aboriginal everyday of the week you would think! I'm happy to stand corrected by reasonable people!

 

I have my doubts as to Abbott`s leadership qualities since he has had the easiest job in the country, oppossing the present shower. To date, all the government has been able to use against Abbott has been trivial and BS, while this government staggers from one blunder to another. For example, to accuse a person of misogyny for mentioning "ironing", or for opposing the filth of Petter Slipper, is just simple minded, and only simple minds would fall for the ploy. To complain that an opposition leader is "negative" for opposing the government (which is actually the job description) isn`t the work of a mental giant either, neither would anyone with an ounce of sense fall for that one. To howl racism when a person describes Aboriginals who live in urban areas as "urban Aborigines", is beneath the mental capacity of a flea, and designed to entrance those of lower cogitative capacity.

The list of trivia and petty garbage goes on and on, "women hate men who wear budgie smugglers, bwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!", etc. etc.
Just imagine if the shoe was on the other foot, if a man criticised a woman for her wardrobe choices, there`d be no end of howling, tearfull chest beating, and indignant gnashing of teeth. Bwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, sexism!!!!!!!!!!!!!, misogyny !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

 

He borders on all those issues, and is extremely deceptive and negative. Have another gander at the "Is tony a phony" thread, that will settle the argument.

Thank god for the labor party

 

The ALP does provide a convenient service for their union masters, relaying to their sheeple, their orders, opinions, catch cries, what to think and which trivia to be outraged about.

 

So........ whats the moral of you're story?