Pathetic Political Correctness.

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by aussiefree2ride, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. truthvigilante

    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with you here with most of what you say Slippery, but unless we address the issues that our ancestors have caused we are exacerbating it. We all have a responsibility and the power to contribute to changing the effects of the past...obviously we can't change the past itself! I might be wrong, but from my understanding I've never known an aboriginal person blaming people today for the past, but hold people to account for the continued prolonging of the effects of the past!

    This is a paradox the way I see it! There are so many things that define us as people, which means we are so so different. These differences aren't wrong and should never be seen as an issue! I don't look for people to be like me but simply value and tolerate their differences. Our greatest similarity and where we should be drawing a line in the sand, is our humanity!! We will always have QLD vs NSW; we will always have the lions, broncos, manly and st George fans! These are all distinctions but the underlying issue is humanity....oh unless of course you live in South America where soccer means life or death and the colours of your team define you as either being an arrrse hole or not!

    Let's be humans together, respecting and valuing each others differences!
     
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    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

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    Well said ....
     
  3. slipperyfish

    slipperyfish Well-Known Member

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    TV we have addressed the issues of the past, this doesn't mean they have been solved, but we have been addressing the past for quite some time now. We even had a PM apologise for past wrongs. So we have and are addressing issues of the past, the problem is we are not moving on from them.

    Fools rabbiting on with silly derogatory comments can never be cured....... That is why they are fools. They are inconsequential to the situation at hand. They will always be there, and have always been there.

    in my mind the issue of equality is easy, only made hard by ourselves. If you want equality, everybody must be equal. Simple really !

    last year my cousin sent his kids to school. He had a new job and his wife worked as well. He is not aboriginal, nor his wife. They paid $ 40 per week for his kids to stay at the school until 5pm when he would pick them up. The money covered someone to supervise and afternoon smoko. His kids told him that the aboriginal kids didn't have to pay, it was free for them, and they were sent home in a taxi that was also paid for. Some of these kids have parents that don't work. Now $40 isn't that much for child care for a week, and if my cousin was unaware that the aboriginals were getting this for free, he would have had no problems with it.

    he is not a racist by any means, but he was so livid by this, he wrote a letter regarding this inequality. He was asked to meet with the principle who made him feel as though he was the biggest racist in Australia for daring to ask why. Through inequality you breed dissatisfaction and resentment.

    Aboriginals have not had it better than they do right now. Not saying it couldn't be better, as there are still social stigmas to deal with. There is no reason a person of aboriginal dissent can not make a good future for themselves. The racists are dying out, and they are being offered money hand over fist to facilitate their futures. It has come a time now, that the wider community needs to back off and let the aboriginals rediscover themselves and their place in what is now a modern Australia. They need time to resolve internal issues that they are to blame for. Only they can do that for themselves, no amount of money or free rides can solve these issues because these issues are imbedded in our souls and can only be removed by a fair dinkum truthful look at what we as a people have allowed ourselves to become.

    shows like Redfern Now are dealing with this. Our discrimination among ourselves has now become our biggest burden. We have risen above outside discrimination, but now the biggest test is upon us, solving ourselves for our future generations.

    People like yourself TV with all your best intentions, can't fight this battle for us, and I am not sure if you understand this, but by always stating us as aboriginal Australians, that labelling is doing more harm than Culldavs use of the word coon. Using the words, Australian of aboriginal dissent is far more appropriate. I know it doesn't seem like much difference, but to me it is a world of difference, because foremost we are Australian, like you.
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    Very bad way of looking at things TV, you are playing the racist blame game. 'We' are not responsible for the actions of our ancestors. Sure, some, (well most) abo's have got major social problems but today I put the ball squarely in their court. I refuse to accept that 'we' are in any way responsible for the plight of so many aboriginals today.
     
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    I miss all the hair brained wrist flaps, but I can live with that.
     
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    truthvigilante Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well here we go again! I doubt you know anything about the history of aboriginal Australia. I don't claim to know everything, but I really do try my best to look at all issues with indepth understanding and dont base my opinion on superficial gossip! As I said, my old grandfather was deeply racist, which had a profound impact on my attitudes! I am a reformed racist, hater of gays, xenophobe, sexist, etc etc etc....it took a while but my god I'm glad I no longer live in a shallow world of gossip and thought! I loved my grandfather and have many fond memories being with him but not afraid to speak about this destructive trait! I no longer make conclusions on the woman sitting in street alleys pushing needles; I no longer make conclusions about the alcoholic sitting in the park; I no longer make conclusions about the wife who took off leaving her family behind! There is always more to the story than the old gossip stories that suggest they are just no good alcoholic bludgers or whatever other default commentary comes with idle gossip regarding certain issues! There is always a deeper story than the ignorant one that people lazily use to try and make an intelligent conversation to make them feel better about themselves.

    It is true....people run down others to feel good about themselves!!
     
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    Yes the political correct "american " politics crowd are truely insane .all Native born Australians are Indigenous irrespective of skin colour,the constant attempt to separate the Australian community alone racial lines is called the "white australia Policy ',and for all the crap about equality ,the only Australians that have no protection as far as Anti-Discrimination are the Australian citizens of the Arnhem Lands in the Northern Territory under the criminal apartheid actions called the "northern intervention" ,please note that the intervention was justified by reports of systemic child abuse ,one must ask why then the Australian army is NOT sent in against the Catholic Church?

    Australian government Apartheid is still alive a kicking ,personally i think both the ALP and Lib\Nats deserve a Kicking,straight out of having any political influence in the Land of OZ!

    As a Uni-Culturalist or Socialist,the racist policy of Multi-culturalism is just a smoke screen for Monoculturalist White Australia Apartheid!


    when you hear "community"and this or That type of Australian read Racism ,as a victim of racism in Australia myself ,can I say we do not need the American "Community based" version ,the old Nationalist White australian version is putrid enough thanks US BImperialism could you take your poison back please Apartheid is the policy here always was and still is ,genocide for the Aboriginal peoples is still part of the Australian Constitution perhaps one day we will get recognition of our existance ,even in words would be a development of sorts.

    SORRY,SORRY,is that right the Aboriginal peoples of Australia still do not get recognition of their existance in the Australian constitution ,SORRY ,SORRY the truth always Hurts!

    Apartheid didn't leave it just changed clothes called itself "Multi-Culturalism",and then it was buisness yes Capitialist buisness as usual!

    Forward to Uniculturalism \Socialism and Equality I say!
     

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