Peak Internal Combustion Engine Sales Behind Us

I've lived in three states where there aren't thunderstorms to speak of.

I've experienced lightening in other places enough to know what doesn't really exist here!!

 

here's a Model S transmission:

(the thing you say they don't need)

 

Well somebody is BUY! BUY! Buying! Peabody Coal, Arch Coal and Consol so everyone may be driving EVs real soon -- or as soon as the brown and black outs let them recharge the things.

“Filings with the Securities and Exchange commission show that between April and June this year Soros Fund Management (SFM) bought more than 1m shares in Peabody ($2.25m), the world’s largest private coal company, and 500,000 shares in Arch ($188,000).”

“The firm, which Soros chairs, bought the large stakes for bargain prices. Peabody and Arch are giants of the US coal sector but have suffered massive declines in recent years, losing more than 98% of their value. SFM made a similar move in 2014 by investing $234.4m in coal and gas company Consol. Those shares were sold off after a few months as gas prices continued to fall.

The Hungarian trading titan is the 29th richest person on earth; according to Forbes he is worth $24.2bn. In 2009, after being convinced by Al Gore of the urgency of the climate challenge, he pledged to spend $1bn of his own money on renewable energy and funded the Climate Policy Initiative (CPI) thinktank.”

THE GUARDIAN, Climate philanthropist George Soros invests millions in coal, Billionaire has previously funded renewable energy and low-carbon initiatives and has called coal a ***‘lethal bullet’*** for climate change, By Karl Mathiesen, 19 Aug 2015. (*** mine)
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...hropist-george-soros-invests-millions-in-coal

 

EVs do have a gearbox, as the RPM of the motor is going to be higher than the RPM of the wheels.

That's not the same thing as a transmission as is in most ICE cars today.

Teslas have one forward gear and one reverse gear as well as neutral and park.

 

I already know better.

A car and driver puff piece by an organization that exists to market automobiles is not a reliable source.

I don't care if doing the minimal amount of maintenance you need to do makes your head hurt I don't have that problem.

I have a vehicle I've owned for 7 years and it was 7 years old when I purchased it and all of the maintenance and all of the repairs all of the fuel and the cost of the vehicle maybe adds up to a down payment on one of these poorly built electric cars.

And on top of that if a window actuator or a seat actuator goes out I don't have to wait 6 months for the dealership to fix it.

Practice all the onanism you want for your car and driver manufacturer propaganda.

I'm not that gullible. I've made a handsome living for the better part of two decades cleaning up these idiots mess.

 

I know better than to believe a sales pitch from a manufacturer supported organization.

Not interested if you want to fall for it then go ahead.

 

I've built cars from the ground up. Don't tell me what a transmission is or is not.

 

Well I can't do anything for the people in denial.

I worked for as a mechanic for almost two decades I hated seeing people get ripped off.

The believers will get ripped off and beg for more. Pointing out reality won't change that they like being ripped off.

Other people watching and reading that may consider and the marketing is quite good might have pause before adopting an electric car.

You can't convert the zealots but they are a useful tool.

 

Yeah and they never break down and never need repairs you go on believing that.

Buy a Tesla and ignore the shitty build quality.

Lol

There's one born every minute.

 

They do need:
Suspension components, -$1000-$5000
Window actuators.$400-$1000
12 volt batteries
Alternators
Seat actuators$500-$1500
Climate control components.$1500-5000
LED running lights $1000-$4000

If you think that because your magical little car has an electric motor that drives it instead of an engine that these other components are also protected under the same magical spell you go ahead and buy your electric car.

I'll wait till you have to repair it I could always use more information for my cautionary tales.

The amount of information you don't know is astonishing.

The sad thing is is you're going to convince other people to make the same decision you did.

 

If the only component of vehicle had was the drivetrain you would have a point.

These cars are loaded up with all sorts of gizmos that I've spent the better part of two decades repairing.

But it's okay pretend they're protected by a magical spell because of electric car.

People like you that will keep mechanics in business.

 

There certainly are people making money by selling coal overseas.

But, the issue for this thread would be electricity. And, coal fired electricity has been on a constant down turn with no new capacity being built. In fact, coal plants have been running at way below capacity, because of the cost disadvantage vs. gas.

For a short time, gas prices ticked up, causing coal electricity plants to increase their output. But, that is judged to be temporary blip in the downward trend for coal fired electricity in the USA.

From: EIA - including charts, etc.

 

So, to my data you post ... THAT

 

You can claim the knowledge and experience as you like.

But, I can only judge what you post.

 

I cited analysis of maintenance costs by Car and Driver.

Do you really think your post here competes with that in ANY way???

If you think it is wrong, then CITE something.

 

Believe in your magical cars.

I will continue to know better.

 

I'll watch the data.

You are free to form your opinion.

 

It's not necessary. I already know better.

If you insist on making a mistake I have no interest in stopping you if anything it's more beneficial that you do so I can use you as a cautionary tale for people with a little more common sense.

 

You are free to eat whatever feces the automotive industry shovels into your mouth.

That's your business.

 

The eye for my opinion based on experience you form yours based on what someone tells you to think and not someone is financially supported by the manufacturer who wants you to buy cars from them.

It's okay people still buy used Chryslers and used BMWs thinking they're the greatest thing ever.

 

Great post; up to usual LW standards.

 

No technically an electric car doesn't have a traditional transmission they do have gearing but I think it's a constant speed.

This is a stupid design in my estimation if they put a transmission on it it would probably extend the range.

 

It seems like that standard is believe whatever you want and when experts tell you otherwise ignore them and sight puff pieces from the industry that's trying to sell you something on how great it is.

I take this same issue with a lot of things really what it boils down to his right to repair. With regard to cars that admit a certain amount of hydrocarbon never required by law to have an OBD2 port that I can plug into and use with a tool that I purchased or I can take it to a mechanic that has that tool.

The electric car doesn't require this they can make it to where if you try to replace components that it will make the car inoperable just like computer companies do with their computers and cell phones do with their cell phones that think that they wouldn't do this with cars when they've been doing it for decades is absurd to me.

We've gotten pretty ridiculous lately there was one car they were talking about making you pay a subscription fee to be able to use your remote door lock. There was another one that was trying to get you to pay a subscription fee to be able to use your seat heater.

My personality type is sell me a car without a damn front seat in it and I'll put my own in there if I want a heating system on it I'll control it with an aftermarket switch.

Car manufacturers hate people like me.

 

Transmissions require time and energy for changing gears. They are useful when the engine has a limited power range, like ICE engines have.

EVs deliver constant torque. End of story.

Tesla has a top speed of 162 mph.

Lucid has a top speed of 168. 0-60 in 2.42 seconds.

That's nearly twice the highest legal highway speed limit in the USA.

The ev range has to do with the energy requirement. I doubt that more gearing would improve that, as the issue is energy, not rpm. It does on an ICE, but the reason for that doesn't apply.

 

I don't believe they hate you. You just don't fit into any commercially interesting market demographic.

The subscription services you talk about do sound ludicrous, but they would apply to today's ICE cars, too - stuff like music (like spotify, sirius, Netflix, etc.), security, emergency detection/reporting, etc.

If they think customers want that stuff, it is going to appear.