Pets: The Forgetten Victims

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  1. vman12

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    So THAT's why no plan survives contact with the enemy! It all makes sense now ;)
     
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    The massive capitalistic money machines profit from idiots.

    If you are stupid then you will die.
     
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    So you did not learn anything at O.C.S. then ?!
     
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    It profits from a majority of people for the benefit of a few.
     
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    The rich always been fokking over the poor.

    Always have been. Always will be.
     
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    Op orders and planning is what OCS is for.

    If you don't assume the enemy is armed or booby trapped a house prior to a raid, how's it going to end?

    You should watch the documentary on how the SEALs killed Bin Laden. They assumed everyone was armed, assumed stairwells were trapped as well as walk-ways. Because of that, they acted accordingly and lived to tell the story.

    An officer always makes assumptions. If one doesn't they are not fit for commission.
     
  7. Durandal

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    Government of, by and for the people can keep that in check. Problem is when big money coopts that system.
     
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    I would never want an officer around me who ass-u-me's.
     
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    Originally the American Colonists were anti regulation. The era of regulation evolved after the Big Crash on Wall Street in 1929.
     
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    We need to end the black market in drugs for everyone's sake. Behaving=obeying the law.
     
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    Wash trading, for example, used to be legal. It was outlawed in 1936.
     
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    It depends upon your addiction. A lot of people quit smoking tobacco.
     
  13. LangleyMan

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    We don't have to put a lot of homeless people in jail as long as they'll behave themselves if we help them get their dope and give them a warm, safe place. Some, of course, will be unable or unwilling to behave themselves and will end up locked up.
     
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    Politicians want to rule, they are not engineers
     
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    Rule? I don't think so. Not in our system. They want to be perceived as doing something proactive and beneficial so that they keep their jobs. The problem is that they're faced with a hostile electorate and a hostile congress who will make too grandiose a solution untenable, so they work within their limits and go for easier solutions that will at least give a good impression in the short run. I think there just ends up being a lot of this and a lot of can-kicking in our politics, so we get these half-baked solutions without meaningful and effective policy changes.
     
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    I see and it makes sense.
    I lack actual xp with American politicians, I only know what I read, but I doubt they are any different from the regular ones. If true, yours do a little more and have good intentions for others not themselves, so you guys are truly lucky. But I doubt it
     
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    Based on how my government treats tobacco, I think I'll take my chances with the black market.
     
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    Well, their power is pretty limited and it doesn't take much of a scandal to get them sent packing.
     
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    I prefer prohibition to the propaganda and controls placed on tobacco. Truly a national disgrace.

    I can understand how people with dodgy dealers or no dealer at all would want legalisation+regulation. I do not fit into that category. It is far better to be a cannabis smoker than a tobacco smoker in today's Australia. An ounce of cannabis on the free (black) market costs the same as a carton of cigarettes on the regulated (dramatically unfree) market.

    As a consequence, I support prohibition and want it extended to tobacco and alcohol.
     
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    Controls? It's not unreasonable to insist smokers not light up in a public place. Otherwise, they've taxed the hell out of tabacco which is just short of prohibition.
    I'll be in Australia in October--Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Brisbane, Cairns.
    I don't think any of it should be illegal or extremely expensive. Tobacco is a bit different because it's use requires large quantities that creates health problems years later.
     
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    I would gladly back prohibition against busy-body moral do-gooders who use government to command and control their neighbors and claim it ot be the for the "good of society". But then, what would we do with them all?
     
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    Who owns you?
     
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    There is no room in jails for all the homeless.
     
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    The number one drug use wordwide is coffee. Yes, coffee. In a way, we are all junkies
     
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